[kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move? http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm

Wed Apr 24 22:51:40 EAT 2013

Nice piece by Walu in the Nation

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/MPs-oppose-vetting-of-an-incomplete-Cabinet/-/1064/1757410/-/14gqur8z/-/index.html

Kind regards,

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Gilda Odera <godera at skyweb.co.ke> wrote:

> These are interesting times.......
>
> Regards,
>
> Gilda Odera
>
> On Apr 24, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am not for the idea of closing up industries to purely insiders. The
> lethargy and infighting and loss of focus can only be detrimental. For
> instance the holder of the highest office of the land is the commandeer in
> chief of the armed forces. I have not heard or seen him serve for the
> military before yet he is expected to lead us into battle. Ofcourse he will
> need able and competent bureacrats within the rank and file to advise him.
>
> I expect the same goes for the cabinet secretaries. Being a trained doctor
> does not necessarily mean you are best placed to lead a ministry. Let us
> not forget that Cabinet secretaries are negotiators and implementors o
> broader overarching goals.
>
> lawyers have however managed to clam their profession shut to outsiders.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca> wrote:
>
>>  Bwana Ndemo is also an industrial economist – he may be chosen as PS
>> for another Ministry – entrepreneurship?, industrialization? etc. Bwana
>> Ndemo is on the PS list in Nation today, ready for Interview as PS – he can
>> tell us his choice – as I guess you have to indicate your choice. Or is it
>> a pool, from where they will chose?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> As for the New Cabinet Secretary, I don’t envy him as the ICT industry
>> stakeholders are known not to keep quiet….so he has a tough job ahead. He
>> will need a strong PS and great technical people below him to deliver in
>> this dynamic industry where the stakeholders will speak loudly, if unhappy
>> – esp. via KICTANET list.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I wish him well.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Edith****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=
>> idrc.ca at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Pamela
>> *Sent:* April 24, 2013 12:46 PM
>> *To:* Edith Adera
>>
>> *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'; isoc at orion.my.co.ke
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move?
>> http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm
>> ****
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> @Gilda, not entirely accurate, Dr. Ndemo’s Masters degree is in* MIS*(management information systems) from the University of St.Thomas,
>> Minnesota. ****
>>
>> Regards****
>>
>> Pamela****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* kictanet
>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+pamela=cardiacimplants.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
>> * On Behalf Of *Gilda Odera
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:33 AM
>> *To:* pamela at cardiacimplants.com
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; isoc at orion.my.co.ke
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] ICT Secretary is it a wise move?
>> http://www.cid.suny.edu/about_us/staff_in_focus/about_staff_in_focus_fred.cfm
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> @Barrack I think you go it wrong. If my knowledge serves me well, neither
>> a demo nor Kagwe were ICT experts when appointed as PS. But they had the
>> intellectual capacity and drive to run with it. They consulted widely and
>> went out of their way to hear and learn. That is what is required, not
>> necessarily an ICT expert.
>>
>> Regards,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Gilda Odera****
>>
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>>   Barrack, et al,****
>>
>> While there is a legit cause for aligning the ministries to the people
>> who are running them, it is important that we don't think inside the box -
>> that is the ICT Secretary should be a ICT expert. It can be anybody who the
>> constitution so points out.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On 23 April 2013 19:41, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:*
>> ***
>>
>> Listers,****
>>
>> Just googled the nominee for the ICT Secretaries post and i am a bit lost
>> as to whether he is the right person for the job. Two things come into my
>> mind: ****
>>
>> 1. With regional balancing Dr. Ndemo will definately not make it as
>> principal Secretary even if he merits. For such a crucial ministry i
>> thought we needed some continuity otherwise we might slow down or lose out
>> on the gains we have achieved in the last couple of years, i wonder what
>> listers think. As a public we also have an obligation to vet the nominees.
>> ****
>>
>> 2. The nominee appears to be a governance expert as opposed to an
>> Information and Communications Technology expert, will he inspire the ICT
>> community to move to the next frontiers the way Kagwe, Poghisio and Ndemo
>> did? This are some of the concerns i have whilst respecting the Presidents
>> Choice, what do others think? Let us collect our views as an ICT community,
>> i am willing to consolidate them and then we submit to the necessary
>> Parliamentary Commitee.****
>>
>> Best Regards****
>>
>> --
>> Barrack O. Otieno****
>>
>> +254721325277****
>>
>> +254-20-2498789
>> Skype: barrack.otieno****
>>
>> http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ ****
>>
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> --
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>
> Mark Mwangi
>
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