[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 71, Issue 78
Ory Okolloh
ookolloh at gmail.com
Thu Apr 11 17:30:36 EAT 2013
Meanwhile away from the "Silicon Savannah" noise, guys are quietly building
regional IT businesses and doing big things e.g. Cellulant has
impressed me<https://twitter.com/bytebandit/status/322237172604354561/photo/1>
.
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> 1. Innovationville: Where all the good money making African
> start ups go to die (Andrea Bohnstedt)
> 2. Re: Innovationville: Where all the good money making African
> start ups go to die (Ali Hussein)
> 3. Re: Innovationville: Where all the good money making African
> start ups go to die (Agosta Liko)
> 4. Re: Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants (robert yawe)
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> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:29:34 +0300
> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
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> Subject: [kictanet] Innovationville: Where all the good money making
> African start ups go to die
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> Fun read:
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> http://ventureburn.com/2013/04/innovationville-where-all-good-money-making-african-startups-go-to-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29
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> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:57:21 +0300
> From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
> To: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Innovationville: Where all the good money
> making African start ups go to die
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> Interesting read Andrea. And of course Africa is no different from most
> start up environments..there is the hype and then there is the
> business..both feed on each other..
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Ali Hussein
> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
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> +254 773/713 601113
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> "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt <
> andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
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> > Fun read:
> >
> >
> http://ventureburn.com/2013/04/innovationville-where-all-good-money-making-african-startups-go-to-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29
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> Looks like Tis the season
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> one one side, they want interviews ... on the other ...
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> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>
> > Interesting read Andrea. And of course Africa is no different from most
> > start up environments..there is the hype and then there is the
> > business..both feed on each other..
> >
> > Thanks for sharing.
> >
> > Ali Hussein
> > CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
> > Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
> >
> > +254 773/713 601113
> >
> > "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt <
> > andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
> >
> > Fun read:
> >
> >
> >
> http://ventureburn.com/2013/04/innovationville-where-all-good-money-making-african-startups-go-to-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+memeburncom+%28memeburn%29
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> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:12:10 +0100 (BST)
> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca>
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
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> @Edith, Details on this initiative please
>
> ?
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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>
> ________________________________
> From: Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca>
> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 23:59
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
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> Gilda,
> ?
> Building the foundation bottom-up (class 1) is very important, can?t be
> under-rated. That will be creating a new digital generation from the
> ?roots?. Sega Silicon Valley has tested this at Kogere primary school and
> surrounding schools and the impact is amazing. From bottom of the pile,
> Kogere school rose up to top 5 in the area and the kids are amazing ? they
> self-learn and do fascinating stuff with computers!
> ?
> Edith
> ?
> ?
> From:kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> On Behalf Of Gilda Odera
> Sent: April 10, 2013 12:06 PM
> To: Edith Adera
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
> ?
>
>
> Regards,
> ?
> Gilda Odera
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: Gilda Odera <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
> >Date: April 10, 2013 12:02:14 PM GMT+03:00
> >To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> >Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
> Listers,
> >?
> >My recommendation is that this project should start from Form 1. Reasons:
> >?
> >1. We need to generate interest and start building that capacity base
> ASAP. Waiting for the standard ones to finish school is way too long.
> >2. Given the tight budgets the country is currently facing in
> implementing the constitution, it is wiser to work with less numbers yet
> still achieve the desired outcome as things settle down over the next five
> years.?
> >3. Once successful in high schools, the project can be rolled to primary
> schools. By then, results of giving the high school students laptops will
> be evident and there should be sufficient budgets to roll both.
> >?
> >In my view, capacity building is urgent in the ICT industry and therefore
> this noble idea should prioritise those who are bound to start innovating
> and harnessing their skills- which really are high school students.
> >My two cents.
> >
> >Regards,
> >?
> >Gilda Odera
> >
> >On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:55 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >Another reason why the laptop project is the future
> >>
> >>
> http://pandodaily.com/2013/04/05/ten-websites-that-teach-coding-and-a-bunch-of-other-things/
> >>
> >>regards
> >>?
> >>?
> >>Robert Yawe
> >>KAY System Technologies Ltd
> >>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> >>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> >>Kenya
> >>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> >>
> >>________________________________
> >>
> >>From:Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> >>To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> >>Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >>Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 8:40
> >>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants
> >>
> >>
> >>@Yawe,
> >>
> >>I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new
> Principals.? Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new
> Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news.? Just drop the
> laptop business or at least modify it because of the
> following reasons.
> >>
> >>1. Curriculum.
> >>Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play
> games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these
> youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we
> throw gadgets at them.?
> >>
> >>2. IT Teachers.
> >>Assuming we cobble together some curriculum before next year. How soon
> can we get out primary teachers upto speed on the same? Do we have a ToT
> program in place. ToT= Training of Trainers for the non-academics.
> >>
> >>3. Examinations.
> >>It is known that Kenyans learn ONLY when it is examinable. Indeed
> teachers make space in their timetables if they know the unit is
> examinable. Otherwise you can as well do your IT lessons at home as your
> hobby since the lesson will NOT be scheduled at the expense
> of say Mathematics which is examinable. So is the KNEC ready with this
> exam?
> >>
> >>4. Security/Theft.
> >>If folks can still IEBC laptops from secure strongrooms, what about
> laptops hanging either in staffrooms or? on standard 1 pupils?? What about
> a poor parent who opts to trade in the laptop in favour of cash to use for
> other purposes? This is not far fetched
> since even the largely successful Wezesha Laptop initiative were
> University students got subsidized Laptops and quite a number sold them off
> at market price.
> >>
> >>5. Maintenance\Disposal program.
> >>Usually laptops are rarely maintained. Just dump them after 3-4yrs. So
> we need to think efficient disposal mechanism for 1million+ gadgets across
> rural and urban Kenya. Worse still those Kids will now be in standard 4 and
> so our buget for laptops will double
> -both for Sdt1s and the Std4s.
> >>
> >>But I have a simple solution for our new digital President. Just traget
> Form1s and perharps forget Laptops and adopt Networked
> >>PCs. The ecosytem described above is more mature to take on this great
> idea. Our Primary schools will just drain this initiative with little
> returns to the taxpayer.
> >>
> >>walu.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>------------------------------
> >>On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 7:56 AM AST (Arabian) robert yawe wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>I like the confirmation by the President - sworn and his deputy on the
> issue of laptops for class 1 students from next year, it is commendable and
> quite easily achievable but as ICT experts are laptops the ideal items or
> would low power touchscreen tablets
> be more practical and appropriate?? However .com that the two principles
> are I suspect that they might not be up to speed on devices.
> >>>
> >>>Here again for the umpteenth time the opportunity for us to become
> relevant presents itself, shall we take action or sit back to carry out a
> forensic analysis when only 80% of the students get the devices?
> >>>
> >>>Regards
> >>>
> >>>PS.? A new dispensation, a new dedication and new vigor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>?
> >>>Robert Yawe
> >>>KAY System Technologies Ltd
> >>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> >>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> >>>Kenya
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> >>
> >>
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