[kictanet] [Skunkworks] SAP and Kenya ICT Board Partner on Skills Develeopment

Fri Sep 21 13:08:02 EAT 2012

Its unfortunate we resign so easily despite the fact that there is a
roadmap in place all we are doing is question whether it is being
followed how many such projects have we seen and what has the country
achieved with them?, it is easier to clap than raise a flag no wonder
more and more crusaders of yesterday have opted to mind their own
business.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Patrick Mwangi Karanja
<mutuota at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ditto Andrea. No one inititiave will resolve our challenges, the least we
> can do with this one is say kudos and push for the next one we believe is
> more sustainable.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Patrick M. Karanja
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> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
> To: mutuota at yahoo.com
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] SAP and Kenya ICT Board Partner on
> Skills Develeopment
>
> Honestly, guys - maybe it's because it's Friday and I'm a bit undersugared,
> but what's the issue here? SAP will train 100 underprivileged students in
> what I can see are marketable technical skills that will give them a good
> foundation for a career. Boo!
>
> 100 out of, what - tens of thousands of kids? Hundreds of thousands of kids?
> *Of course* this will not fix either youth employment or the state of
> Kenya's ICT industry over night. It also won't fix the fact that Rhapta Road
> seems to be crumbling, but then again, it doesn't have to. Doesn't stop
> anyone from pursuing any other initiatives in the areas everyone put
> forward. Well done, SAP, I think!
>
> On 21 September 2012 12:37, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mwendwa, this is where we have a disconnect. To build onto what you have
> pointed out, the Government would do good to actively support the
> development of the capacity of local developers who can be able to extend
> and develop local or open source ERPs, and any other systems. My big
> question here to Paul is, how much money do we lose in forex buying SAP and
> all the other software licenses annually, as a country? Can we get figures
> of how much a standard SAP implementation costs? How many are there in the
> country? How much of that money stays in the country and how much goes to
> Germany? Aren't we better off investing in our own developer skills so that
> we can keep some of this money within the country (and maybe pay teachers
> better)?
>
> The reason why rich countries stay rich is because they have positive
> balances of payments. A poor country like Kenya has a negative balance of
> payments. This basically tells us that we need to import as little as
> possible, and export as much as possible. Then vision 2030 becomes easier to
> achieve.
>
> Countries like Malaysia, Brazil, UK and Germany have come to this
> realization. They know what is in their best business interest and so they
> actively support local developer capacities, as opposed to having software
> engineers whose work is just to install packaged software from shiny discs.
>
> Brain drain? When we have a situation like I have just mentioned above, the
> really good developers will never have an incentive to stay in a country
> where all they do is install software. They will soon emigrate to Germany
> (or Silicon Valley) where they can be employed by SAP to get involved in the
> exciting world where they can actually do the development. With open source,
> they would stay in Kenya and still get to develop exciting applications
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:50 AM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is a great debate, but we should not trivialize what the ICT
> board is trying to do in helping build local SAP developers. Any
> movement forward is welcomed.
>
> Although Great developers don't need any baby sitting, they will move
> and work with any platform may it be proprietary closed or Free open
> source.
>
> The debate of what software an enterprise should use should be decided
> by the investors, after analysing all risks involved.
>
> SAP has seen an opportunity to develop local talent, great.
>
> Anybody who feels like me that local developers should also be taught
> to integrate Open source ERPs should sponsor them too. A lot of talk
> and no walk will not help anybody.
>
> Kudos KICTB, Any movement forward is welcomed.
> ______________________
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