[kictanet] Online Imposters

[Barrack Otieno]

GG, I agree with Ali and Mark, its a question of enforcement we should
not permit people to hide behind the Internet and commit crimes.

Best Regards

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Listers,
>
> Impersonation is illegal online and offline and I believe the law applies
> both ways. I think the same for Hate speech. Just because it is written on
> Facebook does not mean it is not inciting or malicious.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Grace and all
>>
>> The issue of impersonation is one area that I think is clear on the
>> responsibility of intermediaries. Once an intermediary is alerted and has
>> proof of impersonation then remedial measures should be taken immediately.
>>
>> The question that should be asked is:- is it wrong in the eyes of the law?
>> If its an offense to impersonate someone offline why do we think its kosher
>> to do so online? Lets not blur the issues by thinking that the fact that the
>> Internet provides a useful tool for anonymity means that we should use it to
>> impersonate others (usually with malicious intent).
>>
>> My thoughts.
>>
>> Ali Hussein
>> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
>> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
>>
>> +254 773/713 601113
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good morning Listers
>>
>>
>> Yesterday we had a stimulating debate on prosecuting hate speech online.
>> Ali Hussein pointed out that what is wrong offline is also wrong online and
>> gave the example of impersonation.
>>
>>
>> Today, we want to focus our attention on online imposters.
>>
>>
>> We have had cases of imposters creating facebook and twitter accounts of
>> known personalities for example of the former government spokesperson Alfred
>> Mutua, Comedian Churchill aka Mwalimu King’gang’ and several politicians.
>> The police have also been impersonated on twitter.
>>
>>
>> In such a case, where is the place of ethics and personal values
>> especially when impersonating other people online? Is there a provision of
>> personal values in our constitution or in any or our legislation that can
>> provide guidance on how to handle online imposters? How should such matters
>> be dealt with?
>>
>>
>> Lets hear it from you. This is the second last day to contribute as we
>> will be winding up this debate tomorrow.
>>
>> Have a wonderful day.
>> Rgds
>> Grace
>> ________________________________
>> From: ali at hussein.me.ke
>> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:38:00 +0300
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] Prosecution of online hate speech
>> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
>>
>> Alex and all
>>
>> I always find that the simple rules of every day life if also followed on
>> the Internet invariably works albeit with tweaks here and there. What is
>> wrong offline is also wrong online. Impersonation whether off or online is
>> still wrong. The principles of privacy and freedom of expression cuts both
>> ways.
>>
>> I think sometimes we make it too complicated by thinking that the Internet
>> is a unique place where people can get away with things that they probably
>> wouldn't in the 'real' world. Once we accept that the Internet is just
>> another medium which accelerates interaction and blurs community boundaries
>> and accept that the basic tenets of good and bad still remain the same
>> despite the hyper-connectivity enablement we will be the better for it.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ali Hussein
>> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
>> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
>>
>> +254 773/713 601113
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> tions.
>>
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