[kictanet] Hate text messages/KICA Section 29

Tue Oct 16 16:09:01 EAT 2012

GG,

In my humble opinion educating users cuts across different spheres, a
number of stakeholders drawn from the government, civil society, technical
community and intergovernmnetal organisations have a role to play, CCK has
already demonstrated this in this recent past but we need more stakeholders
on board, CCK, TESPOK, ISOC, KICTANET, UNESCO, ISACA, KEBS ISO SC 27,
Ministry of Youth Affairs , Ministry of Education Science and Technology
all have a role to play.

Best Regards

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Thanks Barrack, Jaco and Kariuki for your views.
>
> Jaco, we note your point on the need for users to take responsibility on
> what they post and the need for information and media literacy for users.
> Barrack is of the same opinion that there is need for an education of users
> on their responsibility online. If I may ask both of you, who would be
> responsible for conducting this sort of education?
>
> Kariuki, you make a very good point about what may have informed the
> introduction section 29 of KICA namely the facsimile. Considering that
> technology has evolved and the internet is no longer in infancy, what would
> you recommend for this section?
>
> Listers, lets here more input from you.
> Rgds
> Grace
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:47:13 +0300
> From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Hate text messages/KICA Section 29
> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke; isoc at orion.my.co.ke
> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
>
>
> GG,
>
> Intermediaries are liable to a certain extent, when a computer broadcasts
> spam, its IP address is blacklisted and users might not be able to use it
> to send mail until corrective measures are taken. I beleive this is meant
> to ensure that the Intermediary is responsible for the content emanating
> from the network? if this is the case, why shouldn't the government which
> has a responsibility over the safety and security of every citizen not take
> the intermediary to court to produce the the real culprit? Imagine what
> would have happened in the the recent case when a child was kidnapped from
> a City Church if the Intermediary had not been of assistance to the state
> agencies, now that the populace understands the value of the Internet we
> should start educating them about their rights responsibility on the net
> same case applies to the Intermediaries, if this issues are not enshrined
> in the law it will be total chaos (looking at it from a government
> perspective)
>
> Best Regards
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:58 AM, John Kariuki <
> ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Grace,Listers,
> Section 29 of KICA was first introduced in Kenya law in 1998 at the
> infancy of the Internet in Kenya and was based mainly on experience of
> Facsimile.It was, in my view, at that time  not  intended for
> intermediaries.
> However,if today a smart lawyer can adduce pursuasive evidence in court
> that indeed the intermediary was actually the 'sender' not   mere
> 'carrier', I see no reason why he may not secure a conviction based on KICA
> section 29.
>
> John Kariuki.
>
>    *From:* Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
> *To:* ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 1:02
>
> *Subject:* [kictanet] Hate text messages/KICA Section 29
>
>  Good morning Listers
>
> I would like to thank Jane, Barrack and Topista for views expressed on
> yesterday's topic *Shooting the messenger.*
>
> They did express the need to place some level of responsibility on both
> the source of the content and the host platform. Further they underscored
> the need to have a good information system that operates under a sound
> policy framework if it is to be useful to society.
>
> Today we look at Section 29 of the KICA (improper use of system)
> http://www.cck.go.ke/regulations/downloads/KenyaInformation-Communications-Act-Final.pdf that is
> increasingly being used as a basis for criminal charges for users of
> technology based platforms. See example:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q7VmsYNsqE
>  *
> *
> *
> *
> *29. A person who by means of a licensed telecommunication system— *
> *(a) sends a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an
> indecent, obscene or menacing character; or *
> *(b) sends a message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing
> annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person *
> *
> *
> *commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not
> exceeding fifty thousand shillings, or to imprisonment for a term not
> exceeding three months, or to both.*
>
> Could misuse of an information system also be used to charge
> intermediaries? Would this call for the training of the Kenya Police, DPP
> and Judiciary so that they understand the issues as they litigate and make
> rulings?
>
> Listers, lets hear your views. Further, please feel free to go back to
> yesterday's thread on shooting the messenger if you would like to
> contribute.
>
> Have a wonderful day
>
> Rgds
> GG
>
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