[kictanet] Music Piracy in Kenya - Government can Help

Mon Oct 1 11:36:44 EAT 2012

Robert

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Ali Hussein

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On Oct 1, 2012, at 9:54 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> After making the post I came across an advertisement in the newspaper by one of the local private schools who are offering a course in Music Entrepreneurship which to me is a realisation that you can actually make a very successful career in the music industry if you take it seriously.
> 
> http://www.brookhouse.ac.ke/bhapa.asp
> 
> Maybe this is what the various associations and pressure groups trying to improve the situation of performing artists in the country need to look at offering instead of false rhetoric.
> 
> Do not forget that the piratebay (became a political party and has a seat on the European Parliament) site is still up and operational even after a joint offensive from the major software, music and movie producers a lesson that bare-knuckle attacks have no place in the bits and byte world.
> 
> Regards 
> 
>  
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
> 
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk 
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> 
> Sent: Friday, 28 September 2012, 19:06
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Music Piracy in Kenya - Government can Help
> 
> May be we may also benefit from the wisdom of the long tail...
> 
>  http://www.longtail.com/the_long_tail/about.html
> 
> Ali Hussein
> 
> +254 773/713 601113
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:27 PM, John Gitau <jgitau at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Apart from maybe 'teaching someone a lesson', trying to block content even for the most well meaning ISP won't work/scale, not for long anyway. 
>> 
>> Make the content available, affordable and yes appeal to their patriotism. The Internet is a jungle, and as we move towards ipv6, it's losing its hierarchy so trying to get to people will be harder unless government policies intervene.
>> 
>> Unless we go the Iran way and close the international links and force people to create content locally. Then we can 'police' your content. Ie the current Internet model is due/ready for a disruption. Lets see where it takes us.
>> 
>> Gitau
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 28 Sep 2012, at 13:27, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree with Robert here. The model doesn't make sense anymore. I remember looking for Madtraxx's Get down for ages online even willing to get a site or service that could sell it to me for something reasonable like 20 or 30 bob. I found none that didn't need me to have a credit card or wasn't trying to hawk an entire album I didn't want. I found it on a free site getmziki.com that is hosted in the US of A. I really don't care where it was hosted or who made money from the download but I got the track, didn't pay a cent though I was willing and was happy with myself. What does it say that artists do not care that their works are being pirated?
>>> 
>>> The campaign Bernard wants to launch is laudable but is it actually fixing the problem? Granted bernard having vested financial interest and decades of expertise would know the industry better but in my opinion making people jump hoops to pay you will lead them directly to wapkid. The details of how many people own a track is irrelevant to the guy who wants to listen. A simple portal with a simple price. If you ask 30 bob for a track and then proceed to split the 30 bob between the producer, artist,record label,sweeper and promoter in the backend then this may work. In the meantime, sue people in court (however expensive this may be) to get your content out of the pirate's den. Ofcourse cooperation from ISPs is paramount and I should think welcome seeing as they wouldn't want to be mixed up in piracy.
>>> 
>>> How did iTunes do it?
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I Bernard,
>>> 
>>> My advice to you is to change your monitization model, there is a band in rock band in Kenya that does not have a single recording as they make their money from live concerts to them the issue of piracy is a none-issue.
>>> 
>>> Instead of looking for protection from a government that has more pressing issues please engage service of professionals in coming up with a peculiar local solution to the problem you are experiencing.  
>>> 
>>> Just a quick background,  before radio all music performances where done at a set venue where the band could easily calculate their take from ticket sales, when radio came along the musicians argued that they should be remunerated based on the number of radio out in the market.  We all know how that discussion ended, it is time to move on the model you have been relying on has stopped working get a new one.
>>> 
>>> The biggest revenue earner for musicians is movie sound tracks and advertising jingles maybe you should be asking why Eric & Nameless are not on this forum complaining about a site WAPKID they have understand where the money went and have followed it, adapt or perish.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> PS.  We are going into the mother of all elections, take advantage of the opportunity that this has presented.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>> 
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>> From: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Interactive Limited] <bkioko at bernsoft.com>
>>> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk 
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012, 0:17
>>> Subject: [kictanet] Music Piracy in Kenya - Government can Help
>>> 
>>> Bwana Daktari,
>>>  
>>> The music industry in Kenya is unable to grow. Companies like mine and individuals are investing money in creating music but the same cannot be commercialized effectively. One of the main problems is organized piracy. Take for example the website WAPKID.COM, this website provides almost every Kenyan song FREE FOR DOWNLOAD.
>>>  
>>> The website at the moment lists the following as popular tags – meaning these are the artists whose content is currently heavily being downloaded.
>>>  
>>> I understand that this website is offering pirated content because Music works that is owned and copyright administered by myself is being offered for FREE  here – the total investment I made for the songs on offer is Ksh. 5million over the last 2 years and now I have no way to recover my investment by sales since consumers can opt for free.
>>>  
>>>      John De Mathew - Nimwamenyire Muno Wangari Wa Kabera - Aciari Redsun - Shika Glasi Sam Kinuthia - Muiritu Wa Gikomba Onyi Papa Jey - Migingo Dhi Muigai Njoroge - Muti Utari Matunda Kamaru - Nairobi Iraguo Ki Kamande Wa Kioi - Kapusi Kakwa Salim - Kanyina Kanini Kamande Wa Kioi - Githukia Tombo
>>>  
>>> It’s possible that these artists and many more don’t actually know that this exists BUT millions of Kenyans are downloading the music and who is benefiting? The Network Operators who charge money based on the data downloads. Infact, at one point, one of the mobile operators even sent SMS advertisements to their subscribers urging them to access content from WapKid.com
>>>  
>>> As an industry, we are bleeding and desperately in need of government support to stop this organized piracy that is benefiting local and international organization at the expense of our content and therefore killing and local development of content.
>>>  
>>> As we seek your assistance, we are also doing something on our part. We will be meeting next week Wednesday 3rd October 3pm at Panafric as a music industry (Record labels, Kenya Copyright Board and Music Copyright Society of Kenya) to discuss and work out strategies that can help us especially in creating a clear licensing framework. We will also be announcing an Anti-Piracy Campaign called “iCareforMusic” whose aim is to educate the consumer on the benefits of getting music from licensed partners.
>>>  
>>> We believe that either the government or the courts can issue an order blocking WAPKID.COM, MP3RAID.COM and any other website offering local music from being accessed and this is fairly easy at the ISP level. Before we take to the court route, we wish to seek a diplomatic route first. If we can stop this organized piracy, investing in a song would be worth it for the Artist, the Record Label and/or the music publisher. And in overall, KRA would collect tax from all of us. Everybody wins! Who knows, it would be even worth having a music studio at Konza City.
>>>  
>>> Bwana PS, how can you assist our music industry?
>>>  
>>> Kind regards
>>>  
>>> Bernard Kioko
>>> Chief Executive Officer,
>>> Bernsoft
>>>  
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