[kictanet] Who controls the internet?

Sun Nov 4 09:06:58 EAT 2012

Noted and thanks Nd Ali.

We had posted a draft of the African Common Proposals (AfCPs) amending the ITRs. The AfCPs were the culmination of two preparatory meetings by Stakeholders held in Cairo and Durban. Our request was that Kenyan Stakeholders study and forward comments on the same to assist in our preparations for the preparatory meeting held in Ghana and also for a Kenyan Stakeholders meeting before the Dubai meeting. I remember getting indications that you'd study the same and revert with your comments. We are still waiting. 

The way this works is this: in order to have better use of time at Conferences, stakeholders are encouraged develop proposals common to their regions. Of course Member States, being sovereign, can submit their individual proposals separate from and even in opposition to their Regions (See a number of US proposals or common to both the US and Canada, that are different from those of CITEL to which both countries are a member). But it is better that views that are similar to  a region or inter-region/s are submitted and discussed as common proposals. That hastens consensus building and saves on time at the Conference. We had indicated that our views as a country was pretty much a long the proposed AfCPs to which we have contributed.

The official outcome of the Ghana meeting is now out and has some improvements to the Durban draft. We are uploading the same early this week, again with a request to Stakeholders submit substantive comments that would aid in either endorsing/not endorsing the same. The proposals will still be debated strenuously at the Conference which will take decisions largely by way of consensus. Please, please let us study the draft proposals including those from other Regions - that is where the rubber will meet the road in Dubai. Tentatively, we plan to have a local stakeholders meeting on the 13th Nov.

With kind rgds.
OMO, John
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Communications Commission of Kenya
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Sent: Sat 11/3/2012 09:17
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who controls the internet?

Chip

Thanks for the clarifications and updates. 

Listers

I hate to bring this issue up again but should the utter and complete silence from the CCK on our country position raise red flags? 

Bwana DG Wangusi with all due respect to your good offices can we have some sort of statement on this issue? I believe it is critically important that we do know and I honestly believe that whatever that position is (whether it emanates from the IGF deliberations or not) it should now be made public. We are less than two months away from WCIT Dubai.  

Regards 

Ali Hussein
CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd

+254 773/713 601113

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On Nov 3, 2012, at 3:07 AM, "Chip Sharp (chsharp)" <chsharp at cisco.com> wrote:

	I'm sorry I'm late to this conversation,  but I wanted to point out a few things.

	 The only proposals for revision of the ITRs that will be considered at the WCIT are from Member States or Regional groups (e.g., ATU, CEPT).

	This means there are no ITU proposals to the WCIT.  So where the article says "ITU proposal" it should say "country or regional proposal".

	It also means there is no ETNO proposal to the WCIT. The text ETNO have proposed must be submitted by a country or region or it won't be considered.

	The proposals that have been made public are not officially to be considered at WCIT.  The countries or regions must submit their proposals (again) directly to the WCIT.  These country proposals to the WCIT can be different from what has been made public.  After reviewing the current submissions to WCIT I can say that some are different from what the same country or region proposed in the public document.  A few of the differences are important. So ITU would need to make TD-1 and its revisions public to keep people informed as to the actual proposals into WCIT.

	ATU proposals are not yet available on the ITU website.

	Chip
	**Disclaimer:  these are my opinions and not those of Cisco or the US del.***

	On Oct 18, 2012, at 6:49 AM, "George Nyabuga" <george at afrinic.net> wrote:

		An interesting article in The Guardian, quoting, among others, our own Alice Munyua. But what the listers make of it? 

		See article at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/oct/17/who-rules-internet?CMP=twt_gu

		George

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