[kictanet] Who controls the internet?

Sat Nov 3 12:50:02 EAT 2012

Matano

Now that wasn't painful was it? :)

By the way your emphasis on WCIT as a treaty making conference is well noted and understood. The point though is that there has been extensive deliberations on this matter with various stakeholders hence some trepidation with the silence on the official country position.

I can say that I'm gratified by your email and thank you for the assurance that a stakeholders forum will be held soon.

Thank you

Ali Hussein
CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd

+254 773/713 601113

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On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Matano Ndaro <mtnndaro at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hussein,
> 
> There is no "utter" silence from the CCK. The preparatory process for both WTSA and WCIT has been going on, with participation from the telcos, TESPOK, the CCK,NCS and the ministry. There's a planned stakeholders' forum on a date to be communicated shortly.
> 
> I also wish to sincerely thank Chip for the timely clarification and I further wish to emphasize that the WCIT is a treaty making conference and the parties allowed to endorse or reject positions are Member States as defined in the ITU Convention and Constitution. Private sector and other proposals must be built into country positions for them to carry the validity for consideration.
> 
> Enjoy your weekend.
> 
> Matano
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> Thanks for the clarifications and updates. 
>> 
>> Listers
>> 
>> I hate to bring this issue up again but should the utter and complete silence from the CCK on our country position raise red flags? 
>> 
>> Bwana DG Wangusi with all due respect to your good offices can we have some sort of statement on this issue? I believe it is critically important that we do know and I honestly believe that whatever that position is (whether it emanates from the IGF deliberations or not) it should now be made public. We are less than two months away from WCIT Dubai.  
>> 
>> Regards 
>> 
>> Ali Hussein
>> CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
>> Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
>> 
>> +254 773/713 601113
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 3:07 AM, "Chip Sharp (chsharp)" <chsharp at cisco.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sorry I'm late to this conversation,  but I wanted to point out a few things.
>>> 
>>>  The only proposals for revision of the ITRs that will be considered at the WCIT are from Member States or Regional groups (e.g., ATU, CEPT).
>>> 
>>> This means there are no ITU proposals to the WCIT.  So where the article says "ITU proposal" it should say "country or regional proposal".
>>> 
>>> It also means there is no ETNO proposal to the WCIT. The text ETNO have proposed must be submitted by a country or region or it won't be considered.
>>> 
>>> The proposals that have been made public are not officially to be considered at WCIT.  The countries or regions must submit their proposals (again) directly to the WCIT.  These country proposals to the WCIT can be different from what has been made public.  After reviewing the current submissions to WCIT I can say that some are different from what the same country or region proposed in the public document.  A few of the differences are important. So ITU would need to make TD-1 and its revisions public to keep people informed as to the actual proposals into WCIT.
>>> 
>>> ATU proposals are not yet available on the ITU website.
>>> 
>>> Chip
>>> **Disclaimer:  these are my opinions and not those of Cisco or the US del.***
>>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2012, at 6:49 AM, "George Nyabuga" <george at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> An interesting article in The Guardian, quoting, among others, our own Alice Munyua. But what the listers make of it?
>>>> 
>>>> See article at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/oct/17/who-rules-internet?CMP=twt_gu
>>>> 
>>>> George
>>>> 
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