[kictanet] Kenya' Road Safety Status
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Fri May 18 10:47:16 EAT 2012
Thanks MM, that's a noble idea we look forwad to the report. Congratulations to the planners of the initiative.
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From: "muriuki mureithi" <mureithi at summitstrategies.co.ke>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 09:34:02
To: 'Barrack Otieno'<otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
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Cc: 'Nashon Adero'<nadero at kippra.or.ke>; 'James Gachanja'<jgachanja at kippra.or.ke>; 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Kenya' Road Safety Status
Hi Barrack
The IBM Smart transportation study inspired by PS Dr Ndemo proposes a
framework to empower stakeholders in transportation to make evidenced
based on data for decision making to make commuting a joy, safe ,
efficient and the cost effective . Following public comments from a broad
range of stakeholders last Friday , the final report should be ready
shortly for distribution as necessary .
cheers
Muriuki Mureithi
Consultant Member
Society of Telecommunications Consultants
Summit Strategies Ltd , www.summitstrategies.co.ke
calling for a paradigm shift for ict policies for africa to the next
level
-http://www.apc.org/en/blog/calling-paradigm-shift-ict-policies-africa-growt
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya' Road Safety Status
Well said Francis i agree with the issues you raise, we have to deal with
softer issues but i still see the need for Smart Infrastructure lets await
the data promised by Dr. Ndemo hoping he is given permission it might give
further insights.
Best Regards
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Francis Hook <francis.hook at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Barrack
Thanks. I think before integrating ICT into the mix, the enforcement
itself MUST be fixed. Otherwise cameras will only tell us the obvious -
that traffic police and motorists are both culpable. The word "impunity"
has oft been bandied around when it comes to Kenya and Kenyans - I am not
convinced a camera will shame anyone into proper behavior or to uphold the
law. As it were various TV stations have on different occasions secretly
filmed police taking bribes, motorists flouting the law, etc (and pls bear
in mind, unlike CCTV, TV's reach is much wider and such coverage does
"sting" more than the individuals in the footage. Has that helped?
I think a solution should solve a problem without creating others e.g. who
will monitor the cameras? OK say we get the funds to hire people to do that.
Then who will monitor those monitoring the cameras to ensure they too do not
get sucked into graft (i.e. delete footage, look the other way, etc). Let
me take a few steps back. The traffic police are the ones meant to monitor
motorists and ensure the law is upheld. Now that is not happening. So we
want to mount CCTV cameras to monitor them....then we need people to monitor
those monitoring the cameras who are monitoring the police who are not
monitoring the motorists. This can go all the way upstream.
I think we'd be opening a can of worms if we add a layer of ICT on a problem
whose solution should first be proper enforcement to bring about
behavioural change. At some point the anti-corruption authority was doing
well to ambush bribe takers....I think that's the type of solution we need
first....an independent body to deal with graft. Once that rot is fixed,
CCTV can be added to help the police themselves to dientify hit and runs,
monitor and direct traffic flows, etc etc and not simply be a "big brother"
type of device intended to scare police and motorists to comply.
My two bits.
regards
F
On 18 May 2012 08:19, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
@ Francis,
Whats your take on the design issues raised by Dr. Aligula, on another note
and to emphasise on the your last paragraph people get away with offences
because the officer has the power to release you depending on how you
interface on the road, this is a deeply rooted problem can we reduce by
intergrating Cameras and other forms of technology that would help deter
waywardness. ICTs can help reinforce current enforcement methods.
Best Regards
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Francis Hook <francis.hook at gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank you. It is gratifying to note the drop in casualties, injured, etc
between 2003 and 2005 - I think that is attributable to the "Michuki rules".
Curious to know what happened between 1977 and 1979 to cause a drastic drop
(looks like 100% y-o-y) in "serious injuries per 100 casualties"? (in the
"Crash survival rates chart).
Looking at "Road risk travel patterns" - where it shows the "fatalities per
100,000 vehicles" seems to show an all time low (since 1963) in 2011. I
think to "read" this accurately we'd perhaps want to:
1 - Compare the population growth rate vs growth rate of vehicles on the
road. If the human population has grown faster, then naturally the
fatalities per 100k vehicles will be lower - a distortion I think.
2 - Between 1963 and 2011 there have been more roads built, more towns
developed, etc ergo more time spent on the road, longer distances travelled
collectively, greater time spent on the roads, etc and perhaps higher
probabilities of accidents happening. Also I would like to think the types
of roads themselves increase the risks of accidents by speeding - higher
chances of fatalities on smooth tarmac than on a lumpy murram back road.
Just my two bits. However, some of the listers feel ICT can help with the
issue of Thika Road - but your stats esp for 2003-2005 CLEARLY show that
slight changes to the traffic code and proper enforcement can help turn this
around. So lets pass the buck to the minister of transport, the traffic
police etc.
On 17 May 2012 18:00, Eric Aligula <jairah at kippra.or.ke> wrote:
Listers
As you debate the very grave road safety situation in Kenya, we would wish
to share this preliminary information from a study we are conducting on the
accuracy of road safety data. Good data is critical for effective policy
formulation, implementation and evaluation. Anecdotal evidence suggests a
significant level of underreporting, compounded by errors in other
complimentary data sets.
However, on the basis of what is available, we aver that the major problem
in respect of road safety in Kenya is a human problem. That is our weakest
link. How to deal with it is key.
It is very broad brush and we welcome feedback even as we look for answers
from Thika Road.
Kind regards
Eric Aligula Magolo, PhD
Programmes Coordinator & Ag. Head, Infrastructure and Economic Services
Division
Kenya Institute for Public Policy Research and Analysis (KIPPRA)
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