[kictanet] Kenya' Road Safety Status
Barrack Otieno
otieno.barrack at gmail.com
Fri May 18 07:06:36 EAT 2012
Thanks Dr. Ndemo, it would be interesting to skim through the study on
Smart transportation. It could play a key role in enforcing the law as
well. We need to reduce interaction between the Law enforcers and drivers
since it seems to be promoting corruption, i dont think its easy to bribe a
Camera ( i use the word i don't since our people can be very innovative
:-)).
Best Regards
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:57 AM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> Barrack,
> IBM completed a study on Smart Transportation in Nairobi and presented it
> to stakeholders. In Summary it addresses the data issues raised by
> Dakitari. Top Roads executives as well as Matatu Association attended. I
> will seek permission to post the study or we agree to a meeting and have it
> presented.
>
> I agree with Dakitari that let us argue based on data. If I correctly
> remember a Social Impact Study was done on Thika road and a recommendation
> was made that there should not be any building within one half a Kilometre
> from the road. But of course you know us Kenyans. Flats now fance the
> road within less than five metres. Vehicles stop abruptly on the highway
> to pick up passengers outside of their flats. Most accidents have occurred
> where residents attempt all manner of convenience at the expense of other
> road users.
>
> The second cause of accidents and one that has robbed us several youth on
> the highway is night racing. Here we simply need to educate our youth.
> Most of us tried this even with narrow roads and sometimes I feel God must
> have been constantly with us.
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
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> jambo.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke>Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 20:30:55
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya' Road Safety Status
>
> Well put bwana Aligula, you are bringing out the linkage between roads and
> ICTs by talking about data, I think this was the initial bone of
> contention, in your wisdom how do we capture this data and at what level
> can we intergrate intellÍgent transportations systems?
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> From: "Eric Aligula" <jairah at kippra.or.ke>
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> <kictanet-bounces+otieno.barrack=gmail.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke>Date:
> Thu, 17 May 2012 23:16:08
> To: <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
> Cc: Nashon Adero<nadero at kippra.or.ke>; James Gachanja<
> jgachanja at kippra.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya' Road Safety Status
>
> Edith
>
> In countries where road safety has seen dramatic improvements,
> interventions have always been data driven. And they take place at the
> three levels of design, construction and operations. There is a whole
> class of engineers/auditors who conduct road safety audits during these
> three phases. Most of the issues being raised about Thika Road and I dare
> say all the new roads being built, would have been identified by road
> safety auditors during design and also during construction.
>
> This raises a burning policy question for me of just how "safe" our new
> roads are? Would they pass muster if road safety audits were conducted?
> It's an open question.
>
> Road design protocols should ensure that no road is procured until it is
> certified by a qualified road safety auditor as a safe road design. This
> process should not delay the procurement process at all and neither should
> it significantly raise the cost of acquisition.
>
> My two cents is that the Ministry of Roads and KENHA are exposing
> themselves to legal action, a class action suit, whose outcome is anyones
> guess. But to make your case, you need data that is reliable and actually
> attests to what the actual causes of road crashes are. Not the proximate
> causes. The lawyers on the list may have something to say about this.
>
> So Edith, absent good data, no viable and sustainable road safety
> interventions will come through. One of the things we hope to show is that
> the episodes when we have seen declines in road crashes has been after
> major outcries such as is happening now. I hope to be disappointed, but
> when things calm down, this outcry will die down too. And then will wait
> for the next spate of crashes to raise our cudgels again.
>
> We need to invest in robust institutions, that are data driven in their
> interventions. It's the lesson of global best practice.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Eric Aligula
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 17 May 2012, at 22:10, "Edith Adera" <eadera at idrc.or.ke> wrote:
>
> > Well said Bwana Ndemo. The design challenges you have illustrated are
> just a fraction of the design challenges of Thika Road. Slip roads
> (properly designed not 90 degrees) are also needed that take you efficently
> back to the opposite direction should you miss your turning for e.g. rather
> than drive miles and miles before you get a way back. I absolutely agree
> that foot bridges hardly work especially when wide spread...it reminds me
> of the "great wall of china" on the Naivasha road where people jump over
> the wall or make acrobatic moves and balances on the wall while awaiting
> cars moving at neck breaking speed...you have deadly accidents on that road
> when an slight error is made in their acrobatic moves.
> >
> > Eric, I'm trying to wrap my head around the link between accurate road
> safety data and road designs especially after roads are completed and the
> deal sealed like Thika Road. Please explain as much as I appreciate
> research and data.
> >
> > I'm still recovering from Eng Kidenda saying (through a proxy) how he's
> too busy to engage with stakeholders on some of these crucial issues
> including suggestions provided by listers on some of the smart transport
> solutions which are relevant to this list.
> >
> > Edith
> > ________________________________________
> > From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> On Behalf Of bitange at jambo.co.ke [bitange at jambo.co.ke]
> > Sent: 17 May 2012 18:45
> > To: Edith Adera
> > Cc: Nashon Adero; James Gachanja; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya' Road Safety Status
> >
> > Dakitari,
> > When the construction of Thika road started, I twitted that the design
> of the road may not be compatible with our culture. I specifically made
> severance to South Korea where every other two kilometrers they raise the
> road to enable people and animals to have access to both sides of the road.
> I was told it was too early to complain.
> >
> > The design of the fly-overs too will not reduce the possibility of jams.
> The Museum Hill fly-over will be more problematic than the round-about
> was. The roads converge in a way that does not allow smooth flow of
> traffic.
> >
> > Back to Thika road. There is no need for any study since we all know
> that foot bridges never work for us. An under-pass would have done it.
> University of Nairobi students an underpass for years since the three lane
> highway was introduced on Uhuru Highway. We have so much knowledge but it
> seems it never helps.
> >
> > The solution on Thika Road is to demolish any building a long the road
> that is within one half of a kilometre. This will stall people from
> jumping across to visit. Such highways are either sunken to allow easier
> over-passes or are raised at different intervals.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ndemo.
> >
> >
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