[kictanet] [Skunkworks] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING?
Harry Delano
harry at comtelsys.co.ke
Thu May 3 14:51:46 EAT 2012
Thanks Edith, Peter, Emmanuel & Nicholas,
Ideas well noted.
Let's stay the course on this, and I suppose for the first time ever, we all
now have this excellent opportunity to contribute to the
development & rollout of a very useful tool to be freely available to all.
This tool should empower us all to be policing & enforcement citizens.,
custodians of the environment around us for posterity..
Listers, what else in form of features do you want to see in this app..?
Bw. Permanent Secretary, - Well, ideas might still be coming in, but what
help could we get to have regulation/law developed
alongside such tool for enforcement.
Regards,
Harry
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[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
Behalf Of Edith Adera
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:05 PM
To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING?
Emmanuel,
I would suggest electronic payment (via mPesa type..), no cash transactions.
I hope the developers are listening.
ICT Board could run a competition for such an app development - Paul?
Edith
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Edith Ofwona Adera
Senior Program Specialist
Climate Change and Water Program
Agriculture and Environment
International Development Research Centre
Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa
Liason House 2nd floor, State House Avenue, Nairobi, Kenya
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eadera at idrc.ca | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca
From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:oloo.khisa at googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:00 PM
To: Edith Adera
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING?
Washy,
Please add the good Director General.
I think in addition to Thika road, Kenha and indeed government agencies must
begin to be abit more proactive and I dare say abit more reactive.
I would particularly want to know from Kenha if continous monitoring and
review of roads under their watch is part of their mandate (i.e classes
A,B,C). If it is, I believe we need to see abit more monitoring. Thika road
is a symptom of a larger malaise, lack of monitoring and review. So we
dismiss everything roads as just normal complaints by Kenyans.
I think as a people we just must style up for how do we explain someone
doing 100kph on a rainy highway with poor visibility.
Regarding the app, we could built an mwallet into it and have the arresting
officer collect the cash and push the payment into the system through this
mobile app. He can then bank the money later. This way the cop gets to issue
a ticket (fine) and the offense also get booked.
My two cents
I think this is just plain IRRESPONSIBLE.
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke> wrote:
Meant to add. I have been reliably informed that Eng Kidenda, in-charge of
Kenyan roads has been alerted to this Thika road issue raised on KICTANET.
Can we have him enlisted on KICTANET (administrators?) so he can respond to
issues raised and his statement should also go to all Kenyans as Thika Road
is a major problem and something needs to be done urgently.
Lets not wait for it to claim the live of a prominent person to act!
The app idea could also be supported by KENHA
Edith
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Edith Ofwona Adera
Senior Program Specialist
Climate Change and Water Program
Agriculture and Environment
International Development Research Centre
Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa
Liason House 2nd floor, State House Avenue, Nairobi, Kenya
+254-20-2713160/1 | Fax: +254-20-2711063 <tel:%2B254-20-2711063> | Mobile:
+254-733-624345 <tel:%2B254-733-624345>
eadera at idrc.ca | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca
From: Edith Adera
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:53 AM
To: 'harry at comtelsys.co.ke'
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: RE: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING?
Great ideas - how will corruption be stemmed to avoid people bribing their
way out of traffic offences? The app needs to make the information
transparent and any fines paid automatically registered in the system and
within public domain.
After all our President lauded the use of ICTs (and social media) to address
development challenges yesterday.
I say yes to this app.
Call it eBarabara!
Edith
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Edith Ofwona Adera
Senior Program Specialist
Climate Change and Water Program
Agriculture and Environment
International Development Research Centre
Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa
Liason House 2nd floor, State House Avenue, Nairobi, Kenya
+254-20-2713160/1 | Fax: +254-20-2711063 <tel:%2B254-20-2711063> | Mobile:
+254-733-624345 <tel:%2B254-733-624345>
eadera at idrc.ca | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca
From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>
=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:54 PM
To: Edith Adera
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING?
Thanks for the responses. I believe we can put all these lovely ideas
together and move to address the issue.
Am thinking of a mobile app, to deal with this and a host of other issues
around us. One that is freely accessible and available to everyone. Some
discussion points:- I need to know -
. How can I proceed - I've a no. of ideas and need to work with some
developers on the prototype - incubate and develop it.
. How can such idea be funded, for public good. Are there avenues..?
. How can we have the idea ( if viable), facilitated with relevant
structures such as the legal framework for it to work..?
. What would be the ideal procedure, taking the above into account,
in order to arrive at a National app to make Kenya & beyond a better
place..?
Regards,
Harry
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[mailto:skunkworks-bounces at lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:34 PM
To: kris njoroge
Cc: Skunkworks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] [kictanet] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING?
I think we are taking this matter casually yet it presents an opportunity
for innovators, any time i have been driven around europe i have noted that
the drivers are very weary of cameras, most of the GPS systems even detect
cameras in the vicinity, this deters any drivers who are tempted to speed or
commit any traffic crimes, Cameras are very effective in that they can
capture a cars number plate, with these police can go after the owners of
the vehicles who will in turn produce the people who were driving the car or
take responsibility for the crime. In simple times technology can help the
police enforce the law since human beings have a natural affinity to break
the law.
My 2 cents
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:09 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo at gmail.com> wrote:
In my view we need a total overhaul of the whole system a change of attitude
by everybody drivers, pedestrians cart pusher everybody. Technology cannot
operate in a vaccum so was caught on camera speeding so how do you follow
up. I think we should all be forced to go back to school and made to
understand what it entails to be on the carriageway. Had asked earlier what
distance would be appropriate to keep between cars when traveling at 100kph?
You were never taught that in school and nrever tested on it so why would
you be surprised when there is a multiple pile up. We generally don't value
human life is driving under the influence legal? Road signs are required
everywhere not just on Thika road basically we just need to change how we
relate with the road.
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