[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 58, Issue 137

Wed Mar 28 17:58:47 EAT 2012

Lucy and anyone interested,Talking about healthcare and comparing Cuba and USA, you should see SICKO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicko a documentary produced and directed by Michael Moore. Will help put into perspective some of these issues about access to necessary services. 
Trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BJyyyRYbSk 
Herbert 
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   1. Re: #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers (arebacollins at gmail.com)
   2. Re: #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers (Lucy Kimani)
   3. Re: #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers (Kivuva)
   4. When they came for my neighbour . . . (robert yawe)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:38:30 +0300
From: arebacollins at gmail.com
To: "mugo at vision2030.go.ke" <mugo at vision2030.go.ke>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
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Also in addition to mugokibati's comments... 

Big oil is currently run by an international cartel of players called opec, with both ability and means to wreak destabilizing interference in a way no one could. My suggestion would be a strategic approach to play game, seek a miniscule scale and then grow our involvement with time. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 27, 2012, at 6:51 PM, mugo at vision2030.go.ke wrote:

> Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it.
> Sent from my BlackBerry?
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:31:22 
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:36:25 -0400
From: Lucy Kimani <lkimani at yahoo.com>
To: "mugo at vision2030.go.ke" <mugo at vision2030.go.ke>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
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Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life expectancy of 80 years for their women?  I know, I know not ICT related but you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards making the MDG attainable:-)
In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned.....

Lucy

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On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, mugo at vision2030.go.ke wrote:

> Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it.
> Sent from my BlackBerry?
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:31:22 
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:32:07 +0300
From: Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
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Some spanner in the works:
A cabinet minister sold the gamia1 well to Tullow Oil at 800Million. Wow.

Then with the best estimate of 2million barrels, Kenya has already put
in place revenue sharing arrangement for the next 4 years, with Tullow
oil getting 80%, 60%, 40%, 20% respectively. After that the resource
goes back to Kenya, after which it might be COMPLETELY dry.

OPEC cartels work with speed with minimum waste. Kenya is already screwed

Regards.
Lordmwesh

On 28/03/2012, Lucy Kimani <lkimani at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you
> were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on
> infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality
> than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this
> on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life
> expectancy of 80 years for their women?  I know, I know not ICT related but
> you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards
> making the MDG attainable:-)
> In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research
> and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned.....
>
> Lucy
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, mugo at vision2030.go.ke wrote:
>
>> Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We
>> still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and
>> even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some
>> thinking can start of course but for now that's about it.
>> Sent from my BlackBerry?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "S.M. Muraya" <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:31:22
>> To: Mugo Kibati<mugo at vision2030.go.ke>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:04:55 +0100 (BST)
From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: [kictanet] When they came for my neighbour . . .
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Hi All,

I see with the arrest of a blogger the fear seems to have reduced us to safe posting, here is mine.

http://www.nation.co.ke/Features/DN2/The+long+and+winding+road+to+ICT++success+in+Kenya+/-/957860/1374624/-/item/1/-/fc5761/-/index.html
?
?Regards
?
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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