[kictanet] 140Friday. . . who is an MNC?

[Agosta Liko]

This is good stuff

Locally, let's make sure we don't have protectionist tendancies
because we would suffer if we were shut out of foreign markets

My two cents

On 3/22/12, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to congratulate the entire Seven Seas Family lead by Mike
> Macharia on winning the project in Zambia.
>
> http://www.times.co.zm/?p=1478
>
>
> http://www.telecompaper.com/news/kenyas-seven-seas-wins-kes-4648-mln-zambian-utility-deal
>
>
> It is my hope that Seven Seas being a MNC will make sure that there is
> skills and knowledge transfer to their partner organisation in the project.
>
> This project is a realisation that by us being open to foreigners doing
> business in Kenya we open greater opportunities in the region for Kenyan
> companies.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
> To: 'robert yawe' <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012, 17:19
> Subject: RE: [kictanet] 140Friday. . . and I wept
>
>
> Robert
>
> Some of us are great supporters of your thought processes and the voice of
> divergence and reason many a times…
>
> However, my brother this time I would like to be the first to disagree with
> you. KEPSA is a good forum and grouping that can be used to further sector
> growth and dialogue with the govt  and public sector. But to rubbish a
> gathering that has taken time out to deliberate issues of importance in our
> sector is to take the role of criticism to a level that belittles all of us
> and makes us look foolish – Which I think isn’t your intention.
>
> If KEPSA is such a strong solution provider how come the sector is still not
> in synch as we would like. Everyone has a right to air his/her views and to
> purport that KEPSA is the solution for all our ills is to revert back to the
> MAMA NA BABA days of old which we all are glad to have left behind. I say
> that we have all contributed in our own little ways to improve and expand
> the democratic space and let’s make use of it in a progressive manner.
>
> The use of Twitter and other social media platforms (including I daresay
> this mailing list) can only improve our connections and ability to
> articulate our views and belittling them doesn’t really serve any purpose. I
> think sometimes we wallow too much in criticizing the view that
> multi-nationals, foreign companies etc are only here to skim off the top..Be
> that as it may, what we can do is take on the good and discard the bad. The
> very fact that we are only so happily using all the western tools at our
> disposal (the internet et al) and at the same time doing our best not to
> conform to certain standards then complain that we are losing out is a
> mockery of progress.
>
> Robert, lastly I would hate for you to say a month/quarter from now that ‘I
> told you so’ that this ‘independent group’ never happened. I challenge you
> my brother to also provide solutions. Be part of the group, and impart your
> wise counsel that the industry can move forward in the right direction.
>
> My five cents…
>
>
>
> Ali Hussein|Managing Partner
>
> Telemedia Africa
> Azania Technology Group
> Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road
> P O Box  14556-00100
> +254 773/713 601113
> Nairobi, Kenya
>
>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
> Skype: abu-jomo
>
> "You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him, but in
> business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo Lewis, member,
> Advertising Hall of Fame
>
> From:kictanet-bounces+info=alyhussein.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+info=alyhussein.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf
> Of robert yawe
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 4:51 PM
> To: info at alyhussein.com
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: [kictanet] 140Friday. . . and I wept
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I took time to attend the 140Friday session and at the end I wept first
> because as I sat there I realised that this was yet another talk shop
> activity in full swing but most importantly was the rubbishing of the
> late Evelyn Rono's efforts to give the sector a voice through KEPSA.
>
> Evelyn spent many hours lobbying for the ICT sector within the government an
> effort that has come to nought as we, yet again, scatter off into our
> various selfish corners.  If all those tributes we kept sending around after
> she past away were genuine then lets honour her by continuing from where she
> left off instead of going off in a tangent.
>
> It was suggested by Dr. Ndemo and echoed by Mr. Kokubo that a team be formed
> to prepare a white paper on the issues that arose during the session, it was
> suggested that this would be best handled through the ICT Sector of KEPSA
> just for one of the panel to wrongly imply that KEPSA was an association for
> manufacturers (that organisation is called KAM who are also members of
> KEPSA).
>
> Dan Awendo of Investeq indicated that what is ailing us as an industry is
> the one man show syndrome and the leopard hunting mentality.  If we can not
> within us form a body that can speak in one voice then all the efforts are a
> waste of time and resources.
>
> I will repeat what I raised a while back when I was not able to get a
> platform from which to take over the governorship of the ICT sector at KEPSA
> from Evelyn because the Computer Society of Kenya who I assumed would
> propose me had lapsed their membership.  Unless we as an industry can speak
> in one voice and become a constituency then we shall continue to wallow in
> the miasma of deceit that was the session we had today, together we stand
> divided we fall.
>
> Twitter town hall meetings will not resolve what ails the industry it is
> only if we learn to come together that we can make an impact.  KEPSA swings
> a sledge hammer on behalf of any of its sectors, it recommends who seats on
> government committees that require private sector participation and finally
> it has the machinery to draft and push through legislation.
>
> Forming small little talk shops will not make any progress and I read
> an ulterior motive to the proposal by Mr. Kokubo to form an "independent"
> group to prepare the white paper.  He is very well aware that such a group
> will never see the day of light but if it was under the umbrella of KEPSA
> well that will be another issue.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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