[kictanet] 4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right at KENIC

Tue Mar 20 15:31:40 EAT 2012

Aren't all registries in the same business? Selling domain names at an
annually renewable fee?

I have said many times before, I don't think KENIC is in a such bad
position after-all. They have exclusive rights to sell a service at KES.
2000 (i would recommend a lower price) to 40m Kenyans and more than
1,000,000 entities be it a corporate, sme, schools and colleges, government
agency etc. I think their performance has lots of room for creativity in
business development for the local market, corporate governance, customer
protection from unethical registrars, best practice awareness in the
market, and other areas. I did not get a chance to be their last AGM but I
know others will agree that KENIC is better known out there than locally.
Thats how I see it.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think trying to compare KE with any other country brings in so many
> variables to consider that it just doesn't make sense - in his particular
> aspect.
>
> Kenyans walked into the .com generation and never walked out. I remember
> how difficult it was to convince a Kenyan that a .KE domain was as good as
> a .COM domain - they always thought .COM is it, everything else inferior.
> The uptake of e-mail addresses (and the people who use e-mail addresses are
> the same ones you expect to take up domain names) in the .COM
> (yahoo|hotmail) space will definately be higher than, say,
> najivuniakuwamkenya.co.ke
>
> Is the .UK registry structured along the same principles as the .KE one? I
> doubt.
>
> Using any other registry's performance as a benchmark  to measure the
> performance of the .KE would be setting a very unrealistic target for KENIC.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 14:26, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As you discuss KENIC performance, here is a good benchmark in terms of
>> numbers:
>>
>> *Landmark 10 millionth .uk site registered*
>> See details here:*
>> *
>> *http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17393008
>> *
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> @Wash,
>>>
>>> I think you zeroed in on the issue.  What KENIC needs is a mechanism to
>>> limit the tenure of the board members to maximum two terms. It is standard
>>> practice in corporates and has even been embraced in our political life.
>>> Why not in KENIC?
>>>
>>> @ Brian,
>>> you hinted on calling an Extra-ordinary General Meeting (EGM).  But my
>>> question has not been answered - when is the next AGM due?  It could be
>>> next week and so no need for the EGM. Further, where is the KENIC
>>> constitution.  Perhaps we need to review it before suggesting things that
>>> maybe good but "illegal" as far as the KENIC constituion is concerned.
>>>
>>> walu.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] 4 CEOS in 5 years? Something doesn't seem right
>>> at KENIC
>>>
>>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:30 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> @Brian et al,
>>>
>>> Wait a minute. From the minutes of the last Board Meeting, Alice was
>>> amongst those "absent with apologies", so obviously she was NOT the chair
>>> of this meeting, right?
>>> *I have a feeling something is quite a miss with the minutes as posted
>>> and would like to take the earliest opportunity to apologise to Alice for
>>> this misrepresentation I have made.*
>>>
>>> Another glaring thing I have noted from the minutes is the Board
>>> Membership as constituted. CCK has such a significant number of membership
>>> in the KENIC Board. Now, seeing as things are going, I'd like to imagine
>>> that KENIC operates in the same space as the ISPs - or almost. With the
>>> recently introduced Kenya Communications Bill 2009, I suppose KENIC is
>>> supposed to be licensed just like the ISPs, and by this, it calls for all
>>> those in the KENIC board who are associated with CCK to step aside, right?
>>> Their continued presence in the KENIC Board seems like an illegality.
>>>
>>> Last but not least, what does the KENIC constitution say as regards the
>>> tenure of the Board Members? Can they sit there forever or is there a time
>>> limit?
>>>
>>> Good night, members. I must sit to enjoy my kumi-kumi now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:06, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> @Brian,
>>>
>>> From the minutes, Alice was the chairperson, yes.
>>>
>>> Then Alice should step aside and let the Tech community decide on
>>> someone else who can steer KENIC to achieve the defined metrics.
>>>
>>> I do believe that whenever a CEO is appointed to the organization, they
>>> always have clear and realistic KRAs and KPIs to help gauge whether or not
>>> they are performing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 19:28, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Wash - as Walu pointed out, current chairman is Alice so it depends on
>>> when the board meeting in the minutes you refer to happened as to which
>>> Chairperson was in office...
>>>
>>> Nevertheless - concerns abound - should members call for an EGM to
>>> address the problems?
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 18:13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Rebecca asks some pertinent questions in this article about KENIC
>>> http://ht.ly/9K21N
>>>
>>> Having previously served as a director on the KENIC board I can only ask
>>> "what is amiss?"
>>>
>>> There seems to be trouble with either selection of a CEO or retention or
>>> both.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Rebecca
>>>
>>> "Kenic is a multistakeholder body, owned by the tech community"
>>>
>>> I think it's in order to ask the board chair (maybe *request  *is a
>>> better word?) to enlighten us on this perceived high "CEO/staff turnover".
>>>
>>> "Then there is the problem of board interference.  The micro management
>>> at Kenic is just something else. I am told its only one board member who
>>> doesn’t like to let things run smoothly. I can not name him without being
>>> accused of malice"
>>>
>>> I am wondering why Rebecca is scared of naming names if she has the
>>> facts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Reference to KENIC's last Board Meeting (which lasted 4hrs 15 minutes):
>>> http://www.kenic.or.ke/files/MINUTES_8th_AGM_2011.pdf
>>>
>>> *"Members also pointed out the high staff turnover at KeNIC* *and* *sought
>>> clarification on whether the organization had paid twice for development of
>>> its website.*
>>> *The Chairman endeavoured to respond to all of the issues raised but
>>> acknowledged that some of the matters such as double payment for the
>>> website redesign required further enquiry."* *So, Mr. Buruchara flanked
>>> the issue of high staff turnover; Needed time to conduct an inquiry as to
>>> whether the Auditor's Report was accurate or what?
>>>
>>> *I think if Sammy Buruchara cannot handle KENIC matters properly as is
>>> evident, then a reconstitution of the board should be in the offing, with a
>>> view to replacing him. There should also be an ammendment to the
>>> constitution that governs KENIC to limit the terms of the Board Members.
>>>
>>> Wwith whom does the buck stop at KENIC? Chairman? Then he should be
>>> replaced.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>>> Nairobi,KE
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> Nairobi,KE
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