[kictanet] Status of IPv6 deployment in Kenya

Mon Mar 19 13:34:16 EAT 2012

Well said Walu , what you didnt say is why? i listened to Michuki recently
outlining his vision of 70% local traffic and 30 Percent International for
the African continent, he had very good economic arguments for the same,
the problem is we are not telling businesses and users why they they need
to embrace IPv6, we seem to be focusing on the hows, i suppose that is the
reason we keep lagging, Internet economic still dont make much sense in
this part of the world since we seem to abhor research and innovation.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wash,
>
> Allow me to focus on the "RIR"- Regional Internet Registry (
> www.Afrinic.net) questions since I have some affiliation there.
>
> 1. You are right that RIR should push this agenda and Afrinic has been
> doing so over the years by training techies across africa on IPv6.  But the
> major problem as we discovered is really is NOT lack of technical IPv6
> skills; it seems the IPv6 problem is more business rather than technical.
> Take Safaricom for example, with its 20m+ subscriber base, and with highly
> qualified Internet engineers, why dont they adopt and deploy IPv6 en-masse?
> Its a business call, the engineers are there and ready to deploy, the
> Business leaders may not be.
>
> 2.  And then again, one cannot blame the Business leaders. Business
> leaders make the call for IPv6, if the customer demands. But really, a
> customer has never seen and does NOT want an IPv4 number, let alone an IPv6
> number. Its none of their business.  So we have a chicken and egg problem,
> Business leader waiting for customer to demand, customer will never demand
> for IPv6.
>
> 3. Preferred solution.  Stumble across an IPv6 Killer application.
> Something that runs (purely) on IPv6 and is popular. This would then force
> Telcos to go in that direction. Unfortunately this magic bullet application
> does not exist, and is likely not to exist because of deliberate effort to
> interoperate v4 and v6.
>
> 4. Current Solution. For regions e.g Asia Pacific, Europe and soon USA,
> where IPv4 is (getting) depleted. They have been forced to adopt IPv6. And
> this answers you last issue - staying ahead. These folks will be "staying
> ahead" in terms of IPv6 experience/deployement/knowhow. They will enjoy 1st
> mover advantages that Africa will be buying from them in years ahead.
>
> walu.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Status of IPv6 deployment in Kenya
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 12:46 PM
>
>
> Hi Walu,
>
> What was the mandate of the Kenyan IPv6 Task Force? I hope it's not just
> another boardroom Task Force.
>
> I saw the following on FaceBook yesterday:
> "When Asia trained engineers Africa trained experts in debate. Can't fix
> roads by simply organizing stakeholder consultations."It can be further
> said that we can't fix IPv6 by simply appointing Task Forces. Let me
> explain why.
> The adoption of IPv6 should be driven, first by need, then by the entities
> responsible for assigning the IPs. I think it should be that simple. I
> still don't see why it needed a Task Force.
>
> Let me look at this from the simplest terms:
>
> I think the pace of adoption does not have to be driven by pressure from
> other sides of the planet, but by the RIRs, but still based on need. An RIR
> may shout from the rooftops that they have depleted their IPv4 space, but
> "allocation" and "assignment" are two different things, right?
> They may be over with their allocation, while the entities allocated those
> IPs haven't assigned all of them, and are still comfortable. Now, does the
> RIR start forcing the entities (mostly ISPs) to start using their IPv6
> allocations? No.
>
> Time will come when the IPv6 space will start being utilized.
>
> I don't see how the deployment of IPv6 makes us "stay ahead"of anyone
> though. It's just an IP address. Staying ahead depends on economic factors,
> no?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:28, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Paul/Barrack,
>
> I agree, dismal performance.  And to imagine the rest of East Africa
> expects us to be leading on this front, it is truly a shameful
> performance.  And that reminds me, the PS Ndemo did inaugurated the Kenyan
> IPv6 Task force 2yrs ago - of which I am a member but I will not name the
> others for security reasons
>
> Perhaps, there could be some synergy with the ISOC_Ke guys on this to make
> sure Kenya stays in the forefront of promoting IPv6 usage.
>
> walu.
>
> --- On *Mon, 3/19/12, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Status of IPv6 deployment in Kenya
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >
> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 12:16 PM
>
>
> Thanks Paul.
>
> Looking forwad to the ISOC_ke  IP V6 program under your leadership.
>
> Best Regards
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Paul M <paulitrix at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=paulitrix@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>
> Take a look at this page. Gives revealing but dismal statistics over the
> state of IPv6 in Kenya.
>
> http://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/detailed.php?country=ke
>
>
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