[kictanet] Failed States Index 2012 - Kenya #16, Somalia #1, Libya #50 (???),

Sat Jun 23 08:47:26 EAT 2012

Daktari
Greece ranks 138th (i.e. 39th from top vs Kenya 161 from the top).
Rgds
Francis

On 22 June 2012 17:43,  <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> Walubengo,
> I have not seen the list yet but would want to know where Greece ranks.
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> Ndemo.
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>> Dr. Rigia,
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>> not to worry too much.  These researchers have been declaring Kenya  a
>> failed state for the last consecutive 4yrs. It has not stopped the Chinese
>> from coming to invest.  So i think the rating does more harm to western
>> investors than to ourselves (Kenyans).
>>
>> Meanwhile, we continue to enjoy scenic beaches, amazing wildlife and
>> panoramic mountains and valleys. And I almost forgot - we continue leading
>> the world on mobile money technologies and usage, not to mention soon to
>> come Konza City (do I say?).
>>
>> So you see, I really do not to worry too much about these ratings (perhaps
>> as someone said, they keep those NGO-types in business)
>>
>> walu.
>>
>> --- On Thu, 6/21/12, Warigia Bowman <warigia at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> From: Warigia Bowman <warigia at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Failed States Index 2012 - Kenya #16, Somalia #1,
>> Libya #50 (???),
>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: Thursday, June 21, 2012, 2:04 PM
>>
>> The list makes no sense, really. I am in Egypt, which is currently a
>> military dictatorship, and yet it is ranked higher than Kenya, which in my
>> view is a somewhat functional democracy with authoriarian elements. Yet
>> the list gives Egypt a better score than Kenya. It is ridiculous.
>>
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>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Syria, 7 places adrift! With 17,000+ casualties, 35,000 wounded, and
>> 250,000 refugees, and still fighting in the uprising, how can they be
>> better than Kenya?
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>> On 21 June 2012 13:16, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
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>> Francis,
>> Thank you for bringing this up. I think the ratings are more to do with
>> perception than reality. Most of the negative that make us rank so poorly
>> is our own creation. What about thousands of NGOs taking pictures of
>> slums, drought and starving children then run to western donors begging
>> for cash to "HELP" the poor they "REPRESENT"! This has ruined the
>> developing world's image beyond measure. Our own PRESS is also a major
>> problem. I don't see western country publish widely sensationalizing
>> their homeless, street gangs, mafia, and grand grand corruption, as we do
>> ours.
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>> In recent times, I have seen our leaders, including PS Ndemo insist on
>> positive reporting from our media. That is the direction we should seek.
>> If we instill cockiness in the direction of
>> narcissism, then the west will stop taking us for granted.
>>
>> Self Love
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>> On 21 June 2012 10:47, Francis Hook <francis.hook at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Apologies this is not mainstream ICT but at the periphery some ICT
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>> aspects need to be considered as well...(open access to information,
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>> ICT enabling democracy/choice/transparency, ICT in corruption, etc) .
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>> This index is by the US group Fund for Peace.   I wonder what metrics
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>> they are using or how they are weighting the values of the 13 indices
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>> they use.
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>> Kenya is ranked 16th...that's just 15 steps away from Somalia (???),
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>> 14 from DRC and shares the "teens" positions with Pakistan, Nigeria,
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>> Niger among others. The lower the  score, the more "failed" a state
>>
>> is.
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>> Anyway....the links:
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>> 1 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Failed_States_Index
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>> (updated with 2012 Index)
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>> 2 - http://www.foreignpolicy.com/failed_states_index_2012_interactive
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>> Personally I don't think Kenya should rate that poorly out of a 177 or
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>> so countries...I suspect some of the 13 indices are weighted more
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>> heavy than others (corruption, criminality, political situation etc) -
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>> and if such were removed from the index, just for the sake of seeing
>>
>> how it shifts the rankings, I'd like to think some EU countries would
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>> be in the top 50 at least....social unrest, steep economic decline,
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>> slum creation (US - housing/mortgage crisis has seen more people
>>
>> living in the streets in the last couple of years than in the last
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>> half a century), Wall Street demos, etc, ...."Suspension or arbitrary
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>> application of law" (Guantano Bay still open for business, The
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>> Patriots Act).
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>> And "Intervention of external political agents" - I think in Africa's
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>> case these "political agents" are usually from (or supported/fronted)
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>> by some developing countries that would want to nurture certain
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>> regimes in order to reap some economic gain...but that's an argument
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>> for another day.
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>> I'm also surprised the use of the adjective "primitive" by Korean
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>> Airlines, to describe Kenyans, elicited more reactions than this lowly
>>
>> ranking...should we get all hot and bothered about what is likely an
>>
>> issue of translation or summon our national pride and repudiate this
>>
>> "failed" states index?
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>> Rgds
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