[kictanet] Kenya IGF on line Discussions Day 1: International Telecommunications Regulations (ITR's)

Barrack Otieno otieno.barrack at gmail.com
Thu Jun 14 21:41:11 EAT 2012


Listers,

Feel free to continue commenting on the subject, in the meantime we
will move to day 2, Intermediary liability.

Best Regards

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Barrack Otieno
<otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ali, Listers
>
> Attached please find a report on what was resolved in Ougadougou.
>
> Best Regards
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Barrack. I wonder what happened to Mr.  Kpakpo's proposal? Was
>> it taken up by ATU? If so how can we link in on that?
>>
>> Ali Hussein
>>
>> +254 773/713 601113
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone®
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ali,
>>
>> You raise pertinent issues, i had an opportunity to participate in the ATU
>> meeting held in Ougadougou from 5th - 7th March 2012 whose theme was
>> Internet Infrastructure for an African Digital Economy, i recall Mr. Abosse
>> Akue Kpakpo a member of the ITU Study group three making a passionate appeal
>> to African countries to unite and forge a common front in the forthcoming
>> WCIT meeting in Dubai a proposal similar to the one put forth by Dr. Ndemo.
>> His major concern were Interconnection tarrifs which were heavily skewed in
>> favour of european telcos, that said back home we have seen cases in which
>> network operators play around with tarrifs like bait, we have seen endless
>> fights between the operators on Interneconnection, the question is who
>> should take lead and how can the common mwanainchi like you and i
>> participate in the process?
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> Listers
>>>
>>> I believe we should start advocating for an updated global regulatory
>>> environment. As one lister mentioned are ITRs even necessary in this brave
>>> new world? The fact that it takes so long within the ITU member states to
>>> make even a slight change in language for anything involving treaties that
>>> affect member states is caution enough - 22 years since the last update!!
>>>
>>> Let's look at the environment now and then.
>>>
>>> 1. National Telecomms companies are either defunct or moribund replaced (
>>> or in some cases swallowed) by all intents and purposes by large dominant
>>> Multi-nationals or regional giants. Safaricom (Vodafone), Orange (France
>>> Telecom), Airtel (Bharti) and yu (Essar) in Kenya are all controlled by
>>> these. So my humble view is that the only point of discussion for us is from
>>> a user and regulatory perspective. In this I believe we need to ensure a
>>> level playing field for all players and as much as possible retain some sort
>>> of Net Neutrality.
>>>
>>> 2. Is this achievable through the ATU? The fact that the only time this
>>> was mentioned was yesterday by Daktari Ndemo and that the CCK is still nil
>>> by mouth on this is an answer in itself. How do we participate at the ATU.
>>> Does this forum have any mandate on this? What is the role of TESPOK? KITOS?
>>> Even if we do go the ATU way we must have a plan B to move our Agenda
>>> forward. Do we know if  other African countries are even discussing this? If
>>> so what forums are there to have a meeting of minds?
>>>
>>> A casual look at the ATU site makes zero reference to this issue of ITRs,
>>> internet governance and freedom. Further it looks like their calendar is
>>> full for the remainder of the year and into the next year. Being realistic
>>> what chances do we have of a joint position across Africa before December's
>>> Dubai meeting? Any lurkers out there from the rest of Africa to join in and
>>> give us your perspective?
>>>
>>>  Let's start with home. What is the position of the various
>>> organizations? TESPOK? KeNIC? Computer Society? CCK?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Ali Hussein
>>>
>>> +254 773/713 601113
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone®
>>>
>>> On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Listers,
>>>
>>> International Telecommunication regulations are general principles
>>> related to international telecommunication services and its transport means.
>>>
>>> The purpose and Scope includes among other things:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Interconnection and interoperability of telecommunication facilities.
>>> Giving precedence for the Radio Regulations in case of contradiction.
>>> Allowing, within its framework, mutual agreements between countries.
>>> To set primary rules for accounting and settlements between
>>> members.
>>>
>>>
>>> The ITR treaty was adopted in the World Administrative Telegraph and
>>> Telephone Conference (WATTC) held in Melbourne, 1988. It however came into
>>> force on July 1
>>>
>>> 1990, since then no updates have been made to the ITR provisions which
>>> leads to the following question:
>>>
>>>
>>> As countries prepare for the World Congress on International
>>> Telecommunications to be held in Dubai in December 2012
>>> (http://www.itu.int/en/wcit-12/Pages/overview.aspx) What should  Kenya's
>>> priorities be?
>>> Should Kenya make its stand as a country or should we bargain through the
>>> Africa Telecommunications Union as per Dr. Ndemos proposal during a
>>> discussion on the list what are the implications of taking a stand as a
>>> country or as a regional block ?
>>>
>>> The floor is open
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Barrack O. Otieno
>> +254721325277
>> +254-20-2498789
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>>
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>
>
> --
> Barrack O. Otieno
> +254721325277
> +254-20-2498789
> Skype: barrack.otieno
> http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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