[kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the ground...

Fri Jul 13 09:24:38 EAT 2012

Nice one Dr. on the other hand, i think the normal juakali we know of has
NOT moved forward a step, i see no effort to innovate. almost all furniture
in our retail stores is imported while everyone (read youth) is looking for
a job. last Friday i was talking to guy who used to work for a Chinese
business woman who left the country after PEV, the products they were
making are not in the market right now yet they Kenyans in question with
all the expertise, did and are doing nothing but just growing old and
poorer. we mine graphite and we have wood yet we can't make a pencil. We in
IT sect are trying to move the country further but what about electronic
engineers, bio science, agriculture ??????? Kenyans are dying of hunger
every year. anyway, i think we are lazy. please convince me otherwise

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-erastus
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Nairobi Kenya

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well said Daktari.
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the
>  ground...
>
> John,
> Thanks for coming to the defence of SMEs.  In the next decade, one of the
> top game changers is 3D printing sometimes referred to as additive
> manufacturing.  With this technology in combination with a fabrication
> laboratory, you can reproduce practically anything in the world.  What we
> need are new and sofisticated entrepreneurs to shift the game from energy
> sapping Jua Kali to computer graphics and producing either spare parts of
> complete products.  Dr. Gachigi at Nairobi University is now conversant
> and versatile with these new technologies.
>
> We should not celebrate 50 years of independence while importing pencils
> and rulers from China.  We must agree that in the next few months we
> produce a Kenyan DVBT2 TV set or at the minimun produce the set top box we
> made with Dr. Gachigi but failed to get someone to commercialize it.
> Countries that have embraced this new and equalizing technology would grow
> faster.
>
> We should not put any hopes on oil since the new drilling technologies
> called fracking will find oil for each nation.  Oil will not be what it
> was.  The US today is self sufficient from new oil finds in Dakotas and
> more nations will access the same technology.  China is hunting for oil in
> its fast South China Sea.  There will be no demand.  What will be in short
> supply is human resources in the coming years and this is what we have in
> plenty.  Let us develop our human resource capacity to develop home grown
> products and we shall succeed in the coming days.
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Wash,
> >
> > Jua Kali doesnt necessarily mean shoddy. We can design what we want, the
> > board, the interfaces, the firmware, the software then outsource actual
> > mass production if we don't have the capacity - which we don''t at the
> > moment.
> >
> > Gitau
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington
> > <odhiambo at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> The problem with this is that people will not buy them. Kenyans don't
> >> quite believe in Jua Kali to produce High-tech electronics equipment.
> >> Repairs, yes. New, no:-)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  David,
> >>>
> >>> I recall Bwana Ndemo indicating that the boxes would be fabricated
> >>> locally by jua kali (in partnership with Universities) - to promote
> >>> local
> >>> entrepreneurs, sustain the industry and grow the economy.
> >>>
> >>> Bwana Ndemo, did that happen?
> >>>
> >>> Edith
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> >>> On Behalf Of David Makali [dmakali at yahoo.com]
> >>> *Sent:* 10 July 2012 15:09
> >>> *To:* Edith Adera
> >>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> >>> *Subject:* [kictanet] much ado about migration but small steps on the
> >>> ground...
> >>>
> >>>   *members,
> >>> there is a healthy discussion thriving here and on other ICT
> >>> fora/platforms about the digital migration. yet quite frankly, this
> >>> enthusiasm is not matched by concrete steps on the ground. for example,
> >>> can
> >>> anyone tell me where to get that decoder/top box in the whole of
> >>> nairobi
> >>> for receiving the signet (kbc signal where all local broadcasters seem
> >>> to
> >>> have moved? APPARENTLY there is no supply in town, as at my last check
> >>> this
> >>> past weekend (despite the government having waived duty on the gadgets
> >>> in
> >>> this year's budget). Also, it seems like the service is being charged a
> >>> monthly fee - for those who want to subscribe to PANG. was that the
> >>> intention of the govt? so then what happens to the whole notion of
> >>> competition and the expected quality service if kbc is the sole
> >>> provider of
> >>> the signal? and do kenyans understand that the licence to pang was not
> >>> free
> >>> to air but pay to view?
> >>>
> >>> two, there seems to be confusion about the type of decoder to acquire
> >>> if,
> >>> as i gather, the types could be different for subscribers to PANG,
> >>> SIGNET
> >>> or the one that the media owners consortium will be gifted with. Is it
> >>> T1
> >>> or T2 decoder?
> >>>
> >>> three, the signal distributors don't have enough capacity yet - the
> >>> signal only being available so far in nairobi and environs and (soon)
> >>> Mombasa.
> >>>
> >>> which leads me to wonder whether the intense promotion/adverstising
> >>> campaign by cck is not going to waste. shouldn't the switch be instant
> >>> and
> >>> nationwide?
> >>>
> >>> just wondering.
> >>> david makali
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