[kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance

Fri Dec 21 14:46:49 EAT 2012

+1 John Gitau..

Technical progress will happen, we are not isolated ({digression} this goes
for any service provider not in tune with ipv6 too)  these transitions are
better handled alongside the global migrations, it is easier, cheaper and
allow us to be a part of the change and not guys forced to it later because
suddenly there is no analog content, at which point we/they will still
complain.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke>wrote:

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> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 06:53:23 +0300
> From: John Gitau <jgitau at gmail.com>
> To: "Song, Stephen" <stephen.song at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance
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> We really can't all be expected to gravitate towards the lowest common
> denominator so everyone can be happy. Consumers willing and able to buy set
> top boxes have rights too, so do investors in the technologies to deliver
> digital tv and other infrastructure.
>
> Technical progress will happen, we are not isolated ({digression} this
> goes for any service provider not in tune with ipv6 too)  these transitions
> are better handled alongside the global migrations, it is easier, cheaper
> and allow us to be a part of the change and not guys forced to it later
> because suddenly there is no analog content, at which point we/they will
> still complain.
>
> Jgitau
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On 20 Dec 2012, at 22:38, "Song, Stephen" <stephen.song at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > Your argument would hold true if everyone paid the same taxes or if all
> taxes came from the same source.  Would it not be reasonable to subsidise
> the STBs through revenue earned from the auction of the mobile spectrum
> that is freed up as a result?  If the mobile operators are benefiting from
> the freed spectrum, this seems like a reasonable quid pro quo.
> >
> > -Steve Song
> >
> > On 20 December 2012 12:04, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Hi Kivuva,
> >>
> >> Please note that for the government to subsidize the STBs they will
> need money which they will raise through taxes which means that at the end
> the same people who did not have the money to buy the unsubsidized decoders
> will pay through additional taxes, therefore which is the lesser evil?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Robert Yawe
> >> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> >> Kenya
> >>
> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> >> From: Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
> >>
> >> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> >> Cc: Kictanet Mail list <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >> Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2012, 12:16
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Digital migration and mass ignorance
> >>
> >> Round1. The bell rings. The court has stopped the switch over pending
> >> hearing and determination of the case.
> >>
> >> When we switched to 2G, 3G, and future LTE, did we force all mobile
> >> users to migrate to high end phones? Did we switch off mulika mwizis?
> >>
> >> If the government cannot subsidize the set boxes, give Kenyans ample
> >> time save for the gadgets.
> >>
> >> At the pace some people at CCK and the ministry are moving, I would
> >> not be surprised to learn they have tonnes of containers of setboxes
> >> at Kilindini waiting to pounce on poor man's pockets.
> >>
> >> On 20/12/2012, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > In the end, a frustrated government will enter into a deal with
> Huawei to
> >> > mass produce and import low cost or subsidised FTA decoders, and
> Huawei
> >> > will make millions in profit and Kenyans will have won the battle and
> lost
> >> > the war.
> >> >
> >> > Somehow related, voter registration took 30 days. On day 30, huge
> queues
> >> > were seen at centres at  8 pm, way past the 6 pm closing time for the
> >> > exercise. For the other 29 days, clerks were idle, Facebooking and
> soaking
> >> > in sun at the registration centres as few bothered registering.
> >> >
> >> > Meanwhile, I shall laminate this epic piece and hang it on a wall, to
> >> > remind me that millions in the country have no access to 2G, despite
> 2G
> >> > been the base of all GSM networks.
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks for thinking for consumers in a more broad and realistic
> spectrum
> >> >> (including rural proletariats) beyond the minority but noisy middle
> to
> >> >> higher income Nairobi CBD/Upper Hill techies  who are obsessed about
> 4+G
> >> >> when millions of others can't access 2-G. There is nothing like "mass
> >> >> ignorance" or "mass intelligence" on a matter of human/consumer
> rights as
> >> >> ably articulated within Consumer Protection Act, 2012 (which took
> effect
> >> >> on
> >> >> December 13).
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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