[kictanet] of online degrees + PCK...

Thu Aug 30 17:25:03 EAT 2012

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Ali Hussein

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:11 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Mwangi,
>
> Ask PCK what is the volume of shipments they handle from Amazon and eBay
> then you will realise that you are one of very few people who still believe
> that they need to hold an item in their hands before buying.
>
> Experience and recommendations is what gives the belief that at a
> supermarket there is an assurance of quality yet for many years Nakumatt
> was believed to offer low quality products but when Uchumi faltered and
> people who would never be seen dead in Nakumatt tried the chain and many
> got hooked and never left.
>
> I will repeat what I have said before, Nairobi is not Kenya, just because
> we have a choice of which supermarket to shop at does not make it a
> national norm or a basic human right.  Note my mention of the cost of a CD
> in Thika (50 KM from Nairobi) and in Nairobi.
>
> I sell conference recordings on DVD and people have ordered them online
> from as far off as Garsen so I wonder which people are you referring to who
> believe will not shop online if the facility was available.
>
> Bata has just launched an online ordering system which includes delivery,
> it is a partnership with such an organisation that PCK needs not WiFi hot
> spots.
>
> KENet has provided high speed connectivity across Universities most of
> which is being used for youtube viewing while next door the most profitable
> business is the photocopying of books at a cost 3 times that of buying the
> book all because the student in Maseno or Tana River University college can
> not afford to come to Nairobi to buy a new or used copy of the book.
>
> Tell me that if the student had a way to order the book online and have it
> delivered securely that he would still opt for the photocopy because there
> is quality assurance by looking at the original
>
> Many people still have faith in PCK me included which is why every time I
> have the option when shipping in items from overseas I will use EMS.  Even
> found out that it was cheaper to send my books from Amazon (still import
> physical books even though I have a kindle, but don't I say) to my sister's
> in the US, which is free, then onward shipping using USPS aka EMS.
>
> Mwangi, I do not theorize I actually do practice what I preach, I
> participate in online commerce which is why I can stand on this pedestal
> and give my opinion and proposals to PCK having no fear or reservations to
> the likelihood of  potshots.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com>
>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 30 August 2012, 14:13
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] of online degrees + PCK...
>
> For some of these things the product creates the market. Its like saying
> how there was no market for cars in the 1800s. We dont buy online because
> it is not reliable, efficient or trustworthy yet. It is why we all troop to
> Nakumatt because there is some quality assurance.
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Josphat Karanja <karanjajf at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> Robert,
>
> Is there anyone currently playing in the online delivery space, say for
> items purchased from Amazon?
>
> I would be interested in figures of how many people are really buying
> items online.
>
>
> Regards
> ...........................................................
> Josphat Karanja,
> *
> *
> *Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:56 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>
> Hi Walu,
>
> Thanks, nonetheless, for the belated lobbying with the ideas being put
> forth by the new PMG I might be coming back for more lobbying.
>
> More importantly is the issue you have raised about degrees for a degrees
> sake and I made it clear to PS Ndemo at the height of my lobbying that I
> would not go and get a US$ 1,500/- online degree just to meet a flawed
> requirement.  Sometimes what you need is passion (Hon. Kajwang raised the
> issue of a "passionometer") and a clear understanding of the problem and a
> grasp of the ideal solution.
>
> Installing WiFi connectivity and offering it at Kes. 150/= per month will
> never get PCK out of the situation it currently is in now, the silence on
> this comment is a clear indication that very few of us actually read the
> article.
>
> I would like to believe that the WiFi was to only access e-gov and local
> content other wise at those charges he would not be able to cover the cost
> of international bandwidth let alone the backbone infrastructure to
> Internet the various post offices.
>
>
>
> He would rather be thinking of having an e-commerce platform where you
> could order items online (a blank CD in Nairobi is 15/- in Thika it is
> 25/-), pay using PostaPay/PesaPay/mPesa and have them delivered by EMS or
> PostMail, that is the thinking expected of someone at the helm of PCK today
> and not one who believes that PCK is only about letter.
>
> So if the WiFi system had 1 million users of which 20% bought online, from
> a locally situated store, two item every month weighing less than five KG
> (that is the smallest chargeable unit) for which they paid 250/- each for
> delivery that would result in a revenue of 1,200,000,000/- (1.2 Billion).
>
> This solution can be implemented today without having to spend 1.2 Billion
> in CapEx just use the Safaricom cloud to host the sites and spend 150
> Million in media advertising and 50 Million in printing direct marketing
> materials to be inserted in the post office boxes (no stamp cost required).
>
> If the board and management of PCK are truly interested in revamping the
> corporation I can put together a consortium of local developers a Pasha
> loan from KICTB and free hosting from Safaricom (yet to discuss with them
> but this post should have them salivating to jump on board) to implement
> the e-commerce solution proposed above all in exchange for a small revenue
> share arrangement.
>
> There PMG free advice from the person who believes he deserved the job if
> it was based on the results of a passionometer.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 28 August 2012, 18:28
> *Subject:* [kictanet] of online degrees + PCK...
>
> Just read from todays Nation *http://tinyurl.com/97z64zb *that the new
> Postmaster General holds a doctorate from
> http://www.washint.edu/en/  - Washington International University, a
> Cyberspace University.
>
> Whereas I have nothing against online education - having benefited from
> one - I just thought that I could share some advice.  If you want to do an
> online program, do it from a PHYSICAL university that has an
> Online/Distance Learning division.  In other words, the university should
> physically exist. Similar to if you want to do Online banking, better do it
> from an existing bank (e.g. Equity, Barclays, KCB, etc) who have an online
> division.  That way you are likely to get your quality and credibility
> issues sorted out.
>
> I know Wikipedia is not very authoritative but it is always a good place
> to go to after asking  Google. And so I did and this is what Wikipeidia
> said about Washington International University.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_International_University
>
> It even claims in its list of graduates and I quote
>
> " Asman Kamama Abongotum; Kenya's Deputy Minister for Education. He could
> lose his parliamentary position because of the unrecognized degree"
> Actually our Commission of Higher Education seems to have a problem with
> this University.
>
> I know the PCK board - that includes our PS Ndemo - may have seen this but
> argued rightfully that one may NOT need a PhD to ran a simple Postal
> Service in some developing economy.  In which case, our self-nominated
> candidate, Bobby Yawe should have been called for the interview?
>
> Just thinking loudly and hope Kibunja and his friends (the mboys in mblue)
> dont come for me claiming this is hate speech - because I think its a
> mixture of advice and belated lobbying :-)
>
> walu.
>
>
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