[kictanet] Talks to resolve row at KENIC-ongoing Ndemo's remarks

Fri Aug 24 17:07:13 EAT 2012

It is not possible to excuse the 40 who did not show up after confirming
attendance. However, with only two days notice to adjust our schedules it
was likely that a great number of those who would have wanted to be there
to observe would be left with no choice but to follow proceedings via the
kind updates of those who did make it. The questions may have been late but
as a community I see nothing wrong with finding ways of accommodating
remote participants even though KENIC made no such arrangements.

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On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:

> +1 Robert. Its actually immoral because at the end of it, it's the
> organisation's money that get lost.
>
>
> On 24 August 2012 15:02, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> To reiterate what Brian as said, KENIC catered or 70 participants who had
>> indicated that they shall attend only for 30 people to show up.
>>
>> Please, when you are sure you have no intention of attending do not
>> register as you cause the organisers to lose money.  It is time we realised
>> that sending a confirmation is not the same as clicking "like" on facebook
>> or on an advert.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>   ------------------------------
>> *From:* Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>
>> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> *Sent:* Friday, 24 August 2012, 14:42
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Talks to resolve row at KENIC-ongoing Ndemo's
>> remarks
>>
>> Kivuva,
>>
>>
>>    1. You can't send email questions at 12.45 for an AGM that started at
>>    8am :(
>>    2. Why did you not come in person to have these and other concerns
>>    you have raised addressed?
>>    3. A frequent comment that came out at the AGM was that the very low
>>    turnout out is indicative of Kenyan's propensity to "shadow box" and shy
>>    away from meaningful engagement.
>>
>> Brian
>>
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>>
>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>wrote:
>>
>> Kenic AGM Questions.
>> For the "observers",  I wish you can ask these questions:
>> 1. Is there conflict of interest if the "change manager" / CEO of KENIC
>> is a player in the domain registrar business?
>> 2. As a regulator licensing authority, what is the role of CCK in the
>> Kenic board?
>>
>>
>> NB: Independence is a prerequisite for any telecommunications regulator
>> in this case CCK. Regulator independence involves: the separation of the
>> regulator from the operators that it regulates; lack of political influence
>> on the regulator; and an open and transparent regulatory decision making
>> process.
>>
>> On 24 August 2012 11:24, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Kivuva
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2) that perhaps KENIC Board members should serve not more than two terms
>> (max 6yrs)
>>
>>
>> Walu, I thoutht your second point is in the articles of association?
>>
>>
>>  It is. Unless it was changed recently.
>>
>>
>> On 24 August 2012 10:14, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>  @Ndemo just made some remarks...
>>
>> 1) that perhaps KENIC finds a way to include ALL stakeholders (i.e.
>> anyone with a .KE string).
>> 2) that perhaps KENIC Board members should serve not more than two terms
>> (max 6yrs)
>>
>> walu.
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 8/24/12, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Talks to resolve row at KENIC
>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>> Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> Date: Friday, August 24, 2012, 9:31 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> I am at the kenic meeting where I thought we would be well represented
>> but as expected there are more kenic board members than kictanet
>> representatives.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 23:10 BST Grace Githaiga wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Talks to resolve row at Internet firm
>> >
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Talks+to+resolve+row+at+Internet+firm/-/1006/1485812/-/oonana/-/index.html
>> >
>> >The multi-stakeholder institution charged with administering Kenya’s
>> Internet domain .ke, is hoping to iron out differences over its recent
>> restructuring in its annual general meeting on Friday.The meeting, which
>> will be held in Nairobi, brings together registrars, government
>> representatives, Internet businesses and other people interested in the ICT
>> sector.Speaking on Thursday, the organisation’s change manager, Mr Sammy
>> Buruchara, said the forum would provide a good platform for the board of
>> the institution to iron out issues facing the company.“It will give the
>> board of the Kenya Network Information Centre (KeNIC) an opportunity to
>> clear the air over all the allegations arising from the ongoing
>> organisational restructure and create rapport on the way forward,” Mr
>> Buruchara said.The AGM comes at a time when the institution is facing
>> questions from the public over its decision to fire all its employees in
>> what it says is an organisational
>> restructure.A number of board members have also left KeNIC in the past
>> two months.In an email, Information and Communications Permanent Secretary
>> Bitange Ndemo termed the decision to terminate employees’ contracts without
>> consulting stakeholders as drastic and unprocedural.“Even in the
>> Government, firing employees has several steps that must be followed to
>> ensure security of tenure. This came as a surprise, yet we are supposed to
>> be stakeholders. We must all respect the spirit of the Constitution,
>> especially in such a multi-stakeholder agency,” Dr Ndemo said.In reaction,
>> Mr Buruchara, who is on a three-month contract to oversee the execution of
>> an institutional assessment report prepared by ZappKaas Consulting and
>> Training Ltd, said KeNIC is an organisation with a working board and people
>> should stop questioning its decision.Currently, KeNIC is the administrator
>> of over 20,000 domains at the .ke registry.
>>
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