[kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service

waudo siganga emailsignet at mailcan.com
Thu Apr 26 11:17:35 EAT 2012


Hi Onchari - I agree that it is a bit far-fetched to expect the
government to fund a private sector association. However, I
believe KEPSA is a good umbrella for the multitude of specialist
associations.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Edwin Onchari wrote:

Daktari,


I believe Dr. Waudo in this forum is still with CSK probably he
could shed more light on the ability of the organization to run
with this; and as of KIF, the last time I checked, it was a 1 man
show!...that said, a body that would  act on ideas herein shared,
has to be funded and from my past experience with such industry
bodies, I know that the government will never fund it. Also, this
becoming a lobby organization representing a very broad sector by
definition; do not count on member contributions…so how then do
we get things off the ground?


Best Regards,


Edwin

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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:13 PM
To: Edwin
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; BPO Kenya
Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service


Evans


I don't hear much from CSK nor from KIF; and perhaps those need
to be strengthened. However, as I have said, ICT is such a
crucial sector it needs its own industry-related body to ensure
appropriate level of focus.


And what you say be me the way to go. However, (and I am not sure
this hasn't taken place) there is a need for adoption (or
otherwise) of the report and its recommendations.


Secondly, there needs to be way of seamlessly linking
recommendations/suggestions/actions/etc floated and adopted here
to implementation, be it via KIF, CSK, or a transformed KICTanet.


Shukrani.


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To: Matunda Nyanchama <mnyanchama at aganoconsulting.com>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service


Daktari,
I believe there is an ICT arm in KEPSA called KIF (Kenya ICT
Federation)? This, or CSK, is the body that needs to be reformed
so that it takes everybody on board, and then KICKTANet can
remain as a networking forum, maybe within the bigger body or
something like that.
Just my thoughts.
Evans

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Matunda Nyanchama
<[3]mnyanchama at aganoconsulting.com> wrote:

Edwin


The Summit Strategies report shared with us here recently made
some very pertinent recommendations. I think KICTAnet has a real
opportunity if it transforms itself as per recommendations. The
forum would remain as a means of information sharing.


It is also in line with previous discussions regarding creation
of a  ICT industry body with focus on technology policy, advocacy
(?), etc on behalf of the industry; a kind of KEPSA with focus on
technology. Someone may ask why not play within KEPSA? My answer:
ICT is so core to the national economy and large enough to
warrant such a body. This is what Canada (the market I am most
familiar with) has with what is called Canadian Technology
Alliance (CATA).


I know funding would be an issue, especially at the teething
stages. And one proposal would be for GoK to offer seed money and
funding for a period (say 3~5 years) within which the body would
have established long-term financing.


And with proper governance, we can then hold those that lead the
organization to account. It would give Harry Hare's ideas some
landing patch and chance for implementation.


Have a good day.


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Subject: RE: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service


If we stay the course we’ll achieve something- unfortunately we
never do. I believe a while back in this very same forum there
was a wealthy discussion on how to turn around PCK and even one
members had championed to be elected PMG, those ideas are now
archives credit to our short-term memory! Brilliant discussions
and no action is just as bad as shutting up and putting up with
the status quo….and I am almost certain that the concerned
parties who form the bulk of this forum’s “lurkers” are all
smiles because they are certain that no matter how loud we whine,
being Kenyan,  nothing is going to happen.


Edwin

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Subject: [kictanet] On PCK - Re: How To Revive Postal Service



Re: How To Revive Postal Service

Amenya
You are living in the past.
Postal services worldwide are declining and only those with
futuristic
leadership will enable their corporations adopt. Part of the
reason is
the growth of electronic communications (fast, reliable, etc.)
and
competition from other carriers: courier companies, etc (in fact
in
Kenya bus companies deliver parcels more reliably than Posta) and
more.
In the advanced western economies, futuristic postal corporations
have
created virtual mailboxes for almost entire populations. Here one
gets
their bills, statements, etc electronically; documents that can
be
accessed via a secure web portal. Smart phone growth has been a
key
enabler of such services, which allow you to scan your documents,
pay
your bills, etc.
Two years ago we approached PCK on a similar approach. The idea
was for
us to help them craft a strategy to position themselves for
survival in
the future. Much of our strategy is based on use of technology,
taking
advantage of their reach across the country, agency banking, etc.
Our good general looked at us without betraying a sense of
whether he
understood what we were saying or not. He dispatched us to the
ICT
department, composed of very good knowledgeable people working
under
very difficult circumstances.
Long story short: we hit a brick wall.
The PCK leadership is archaic, doesn't understand business. Most
of them
have the civil service mentality .... hang your coat, go roast
meat/check how your matatu is doing, come back 3-4 hours later,
review
one file, go home and for sure there will be a pay cheque at the
end of
the month!
Zip productivity!
I could write tons about the unrealized PCK potential but let
that be
for another day!
In the meantime you may wish to check the story of PostaPay which
was
supposed to compete with MoneyGram and Western Union in
international
money transfer business! We launched this with pomp ... a few
years
later, the same people with who we were singing songs of
patriotism,
were in the dock for embezzlement.
Remember the recent article I shared on why Africa lags the Asian
Tigers: we eat it all!
Matunda Nyanchama
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> I think Kenyans we can make Kenya great when we join hands and
walk
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yet he
> decamped from a party that uplifted him from political
oblivions when
> Akaranga fried him in 2002 elections ,A conflict statement.
>
> Back to my little thinking.
>
> I have been reasoning that since we are gearing towards an
elections
in
> 2013 why can the MPs pass a law that requires all parties to
send
their
> respective partymanifestos through post offices to Kenyans and
also
via
> parcel firms.?
>
> This will see a boost in revenues collections both direct and
indirect and
> KRA will have enough avenue to collect taxes to pay teachers
,soldiers
etc.
>
> Postal Corporation will see demand for its stamps go up ,their
rental
> boxes will be active and also we shall see an increased parcels
movements
> with other private firms like G4S,Wells Fargo and many more.
>
> So as Kenyans let us demand all parties to send their
manifestos via
> registered firms and this will see an increased economic
activities
because
> when this is done ,printing firms will have business,they will
hire
people
> ,hence helping reduction of unemployment in Kenya.
>
> It can be done let nobody tell me that democracy is suppose to
be
> affordable hence they party manifestos should be distributed
freely.
>
> Kenyans must come up with simple ideas that will help our GDP
uptick.
>
> They say we lose Ksh 3.4 B through corruptions and other panya
routes
what
> if we sealed those loopholes then we shall have more money said
to
have
> parties pay for postal services so that their supporters can
get the
> manifestos in their mail boxes.
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> Gibson Amenya
> Level Moja Solutions
> Skype amenya.gibson
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>

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