[kictanet] IBM is dead!

Wed Apr 18 10:37:10 EAT 2012

Listers,

I am saddened to read Robert's email saying he got a phone call from 
"someone"-whoever the person is. This is EXACTLY what I mentioned in one of 
my comments on the reasons for low participation in Kictanet discussions. Is 
KICTANET supposed to be a controlled forum where one only voices "positive " 
comments?
And what are "positive" comments?
In my view, if I was IBM, I would turn around this "negative" comment and 
use the opportunity to educate listers on what we are doing- a good chance 
to capture attention of so many from this "negative" subject heading. I am 
therefore choosing to believe that the phone call to Robert is not from 
anyone associated with IBM. This caller is in fact doing IBM disservice and 
not giving them an opportunity to educate listers yet so much education is 
required. Let us not lie to ourselves that there is so much knowledge in the 
ICT fraternity.
Listers, please, please, let us not intimidate anyone when they comment. 
Choose to let those it is directly touching on to correct the position- if 
it is wrong. After all, how do you know how many more are thinking like 
Robert regarding IBM and cloud computing? Is this not a good chance to 
educate/inform the masses?
Let us learn to turn negative situations into positive situations.In my 
view, listers would have learned so much from this.
Every organisation needs a person who can provide constructive criticism. 
Where it is baseless, it is treated as so. Many times, there is some truth 
in the criticism and organisational leaders who listen have learned so much 
and in many cases, it has helped the organisation evaluate certain positions 
or strategies. I am sure those who have studied leadership programs will 
agree.
Robert, carry on. You will be told off or better still corrected where it 
seems baseless and I hope commended,where your criticism has opened eyes.

Kind regards,

Gilda Odera

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Etinick Mutinda" <etinick at gmail.com>
To: <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] IBM is dead!

> Hi,
>
> My take is that although the post has a URL to the actual IBM story,
> Roberts heading "IBM is Dead" is sensational. This could be viewed by
> many as a bare knuckled attach on a leading vendor and thus draw the
> wrath of stakeholders in the industry. It is true that there are
> people who have been reluctant to contribute on this forum for fear of
> the usual backlash we see unleashed. In a forum where there is little
> regulation, people are likely to depart from civility and engage on
> discourse that boarders on libel especially when castigating
> organisations for alleged poor services. The wise would call it
> speakign the truth in Love.
>
>
> Etinick
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau
> <solo.mburu at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I wish I could laugh louder.When one airs opinions based on what they
>> believe in doesn't that mean it's a valid argument based on their
>> thinking? Robert, are you yielding to pressure such that you want to
>> look as though you are in the wrrong?
>>
>> On 18/04/2012, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Hi Listers,
>>>
>>> I have just received a phone call from a very respected member of this
>>> community, who shall remain unnamed for purposes of his reputation as in
>>> this case he is acting as a gun for hire.
>>>
>>> He indicated that the post below is negative and I need to have a more
>>> positive approach to my posts.
>>>
>>> Mine is to present my case and accept judgement in the court of peer
>>> opinion, so I ask is this post negative?
>>>
>>> In the conversation it was said that most list members avoid 
>>> contributing
>>> for fear of being flamed mainly by me, to encourage all to participate I
>>> promise not to respond to any post that relates to this issue either now 
>>> or
>>> in the future.
>>>
>>> Moderator, in the event that the majority indicate my post of the 
>>> successful
>>> launch of a cloud solution by IBM is negative please delete the post and
>>> suspend my posting privileges for 1 month or any other period deemed
>>> appropriate to the extent of cancelling my membership.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2012, 8:19
>>> Subject: [kictanet] IBM is dead!
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I always said that my short lived mini computer skills will serve me 
>>> again
>>> soon, the big boys are back in the game and at the front of the pack is 
>>> old
>>> Blue.
>>>
>>> http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/data_centers/232900099
>>>
>>>
>>> Cloud is the death knell for the PC Servers and the rebirth of the 
>>> mainframe
>>> team, it is good to be back home with total and absolute control.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi,
>>> 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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