[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
Walubengo J
jwalu at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 16 13:54:06 EAT 2012
@Gilda,
the ball is actually in EACH of our courts. I am also humbled by the former PS Murage's testimony. Think about it, this guy was for along time the President's Strategy Advisor - perhaps KICTAnet has had policy impact from the highest levels of this land (we all deserve some some consultancy fee from Govt ;-).
But am sure we can make even bigger strides as get more feedback from the membership. I assume GG is moderating, based on her recent summary. Keep the conversation going.
walu.
--- On Mon, 4/16/12, Gilda Odera <godera at skyweb.co.ke> wrote:
From: Gilda Odera <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
To: jwalu at yahoo.com
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Date: Monday, April 16, 2012, 11:59 AM
Joe,
I like your suggestion. I agree- let us look at the
next 10 years, review where we are, evaluate any shortfalls and come up with
possible suggestions. We have evolved but we could be further. As Brian
mentioned, this can be taken to the higher level once determined.I'd like
to see more than 10 companies winning global competitions (why not?), lower
Internet rates with greater speeds, many more innovations (because we have what
it takes). My take is that we can do much more- let us up our game.
Walu, ball in your court, let us get this
going.
Kind regards,
Gilda
----- Original Message -----
From:
Joseph
Mucheru
To: godera at skyweb.co.ke
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 9:42
AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..
kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet 2.0
Harry/Gilda Et all,
Following this whole discussion I can help but conclude the country have
moved to a different stage in the development of the ICT sector. In the past
we came together because there were major issues we needed to deal with. The
face 2 face was even important to ensure we framed the issues well for the
stakeholders.
We have a policy framework in place (an evolving one)
The market is competitive (call rates and internet rates are low)
We are leading in innovations in mobile money globally (mpesa)
iHub and other open community spaces are doing well - look at the mlab Content and other funding (Billions of
shillings)
John Waibochi is winning global competitions with virtual city
Cables landed - 4G and evolving
etc ....
We still have some legacy issues (Telkom and Posta) - But we know there
are qualified people dealing with them amongst others
Am not saying things are perfect, only that we have not identified
an obvious national cross cutting issue to rally everyone around. Konza is a
great but most people I have talked to are not clear how to engage (yet they
do not want to be left out).
May I propose an action for this list. Paint a picture of Kenya's ICT
sector in 2020. By this I mean, what do we all think Kenya's ICT sector
will/can look like in next 10 years.
This will allow each of us to reflect of what we are doing today and how
we can impact that vision of tomorrow.
Thanks
Joe
My view is we have exhausted discussions on setting a suitable framework
and what we need is to move to the next level
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
Thanks
so much Gilda.
Actually,
therein lies the conundrum – How to grow the forum potential that we have?
How to spur on such a huge base as
per
Washington’s stats, to a wider participation/engagement for mutual benefit
of all, the nation and beyond. Debate here
on
the good days can really, really be rich in content at the same time being
informative & Educative.
Secondly,
as Edwin earlier on stated, on those good days when debate – deliberation
& conclusions is at its best, we
unfortunately
do not have mechanisms in place to follow this through with the decision
makers – effectively influencing
policy.
How do we address this..? It won’t just be enough to build up an archive for
PhD students out of the Kictanet
repositories..
Let these deliberations make a difference that can count in this country.
That
is Kictanet..
Harry
From: Gilda Odera
[mailto:godera at skyweb.co.ke]
Sent: Friday, April 13,
2012 5:26 PM
To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Subject: Re:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet
2.0
Hi Harry,
I am not too sure
the sisters can be any more empowered- short of force feeding
really!:)
Those who feel
strongly about something tend to drop a line.
I don't even
think it is a gender issue, I am sure if you check out the subscriber base
you will find that people are just keeping quiet in the background but
picking a lot.
How to make it
more interactive?
My suspicion is
that many only read one thread and miss out the main thread of the debate
and depending on what a subscriber has responded to, they sometimes "switch
off" and do not read any more mails on that topic- in the process missing
out on some interesting discussions in
between.
I think those who
have something burning to say will say it anyway. The rest are neither
here nor there in the debate so they see no need to comment nor read
all the threads.
Maybe on each
topic the key Government agencies can be requested to always give an
opinion- that may generate more participation.And the subject line
would ensure it highlights " XXX's position on....".- Just
wondering.
Glad to read PS
Murage's email to Grace- people are indeed reading Kictanet debates.
.
Gilda Odera
----- Original
Message -----
From: Harry Delano
To: 'Gilda Odera'
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Sent: Friday, April
13, 2012 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: [kictanet]
Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet
2.0
Thanks
so much Gilda/Grace for your comments. So possibly from your own
observation perhaps, how can we make
it
more interactive and engaging, and attract more participation..? Could it
be we need to make the environment a little
bit
more conducive/friendlier and accommodative enough? My observation
is the sisters are usually too silent. How
do
we empower..?
Secondly
I do note, in its formative years Kictanet actively & professionally (
through representation) engaged a number
of
players on the national stage, such us the Ps, CCK, Govt Depts, to shape
ICT policy. There have been positive results
from
those engagement sessions (kamkunji). That also seems to have faded off..?
Any idea..?
This
is because I have this strong feeling within, that since Kictanet was
formed with the express objective to engage
on
a multi-stakeholder platform, there has never been such a time in its
history as now that we need to engage more,
and
do so collectively. For instance, I thought this would be a time we would
be actively engaging on Konza, Cyber
security,
just to name a few… or..?
Harry
From:
kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of
Gilda Odera
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:08
PM
To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Subject: Re:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet
2.0
Grace,
I think
it is a cultural thing here. Many people would rather write directly to
you during a debate, as you say below, rather than voice their
opinion openly. I am thinking Kenyans are still very shy and scared of
being seen to "step on another's toes"- just in case their comment may be
going against someone's opinion. Many would rather hide and comment
quietly to the person next to them or the person they are close
to.
I
imagine that is why there are still so many things that remain unchanged
in the country that could be changed if people came out and
voiced their opinions. But the few who write
must never feel discouraged as their voices are still being heard and they
are impacting on so many. It takes a few people to bring about
change.
My
thoughts.
Regards,
Gilda
-----
Original Message -----
From: Grace Githaiga
To: godera at skyweb.co.ke
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Sent: Friday,
April 13, 2012 3:36 PM
Subject: RE:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet
2.0
Spot on
Gilda. However, it may be useful to hear from some lurkers as to why
they are not active participants of the forum (there is not so much from
the sisters :)). Maybe there is something that can be done to allow for
more participation? I have for example received
comments off-list when I have moderated debates, and my
question to those listers is that it would be nice for them to raise the
very good comments here on this forum. Again, the aim is to strengthen
the forum and have it continue to remain relevant.
On another
note, I have seen some of our discussions here quoted authoritatively on
mainstream media, as well as on social
media.
Ben Akoh, we
look forward to reading the findings of your
research.
Lets keep
this debate live! It is very useful.
Rgds
GG
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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forth and rule the World!
From: godera at skyweb.co.ke
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:12:58
+0300
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into
KICTAnet 2.0
CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
Long live
Kictanet- as far as I am concerned.
Listers,
I think we
need to remember that just like in any other forum, there are always the
very few who engage in discussions while most do the listening.
That is typical human behaviour, and it is therefore not odd nor
is Kictanet dying because not all subscribed listers are actively
participating.
Personally,
I am quite happy with the forum. And there has been so much to
learn and listen to in the various debates- very
useful.
Regards,
Gilda
Odera
-----
Original Message -----
From: Walubengo J
To: godera at skyweb.co.ke
Cc: KICTAnet ICT
Policy Discussions
Sent: Friday,
April 13, 2012 12:04 PM
Subject: Re:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into KICTAnet
2.0
Ben
This is a powerful
testimony. I do also know of a PhD student whose core
dataset is the KICTAnet archives. And others who got
jobs/scholarships arising from KICTAnet posts. I think
these are some of the stories that we want to hear from the
"horses" mouth...
However, on the flip-side, I think we
should also welcome the negative experiences - or challenges as
it were - so that we can improve going
forward.
walu.
nb: ave taken the liberty to tweak the
subject to include KICTAnet 2.0
--- On Fri, 4/13/12,
Ben Akoh <me at benakoh.com>
wrote:
From: Ben
Akoh <me at benakoh.com>
Subject: Re: [kictanet]
Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!
To:
jwalu at yahoo.com
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date:
Friday, April 13, 2012, 2:17 AM
Hi All,
My name is Ben Akoh and I am
one of many lurkers on this list, and on many
others. I am
not Kenyan, I have visited the country several times, I
will
be visiting it in the next month, I love it, its people,
and have very
good friends there.
I participated in
one of the earlier public forums that helped to
shape
Kictanet and that fed into the numerous fiber
initiatives to which you and
most of us now enjoy: directly
when we visit the country, and indirectly
when we interact
with good people like yourselves who continue to pave the
way
for how public consultation can shape future growth and
development.
My comments are along three lines:
1.
The benefits of lurkers: Being a lurker is not necessary a bad
thing.
Some of us continue to benefit from this list and
learn good practices
that inform public policy in many other
areas. For instance, the Kictanet
model is replicated across
several national discussion lists in West
Africa and have
been suggested as a useful model for public consultation
on
policy issues. Lurkers benefit through propagate the good
dialogues
that emanate from this group in other forums beyond
yours. See this as
Kenya's export to the knowledge and
information economy.
2. Questioning is good: Seeking ways
through which this forum would become
more relevant is also
not necessarily a bad thing. Questioning leads
to
improvement. The day that every member of this group
thinks that the list
has arrived (group think), is the day it
begins to slowly die a death.
Thus, a constant review, as
someone mentioned, against Kictanet's initial
objectives is a
good starting point; documenting its progress over the
years
through careful research (as another person mentioned) is
also
important. But significant consideration should be given
to the medium of
delivery and how this is relevant to
the context of the times. "The medium
is the message"
(Marshall McLuhan). The medium should thus respond to
the
demands of the time. Considerations should be given to
those for whom
policy is deliberated but who do not have
access to deliberate in its
present form.
3. Kicktanet
is one of several model that works: I am currently
finalizing
a toolkit (ebook and wiki) of several models that
have worked for
generating evidence and for seeking consent
of those whom policy will
affect using case studies of good
practice models implemented across the
world. Kictanet
and this discussion list is featured prominently as one
of
them. I hope to share the outcome of this research once it
has been
published.
In sum, all these go to say
that:
1. The list is useful to both lurkers and active
members.
2. Its influence transcends Kenya and contributes to
shaping policy and
policy consultation beyond its
borders.
3. The medium should respond to the dynamic context
of communication
technologies, and cater to the local context
as well as the growing needs
of its audience - present and
future. It should therefore be shaped
accordingly.
My
two bob.
Ben
A lurker.
On Thu, April 12,
2012 8:59 am, Evans Ikua wrote:
> Now that we have to
weigh in, I think this is an important list that it
>
serves its purposes well. If it falls silent for some time, then
it means
> that everyone is happy, which is not a bad
thing. When its active, it
> means
> that people
have issues, and they have a good place and forum to air
their
> concerns and opinion relating to the
industry.
>
> As for the lurkers, they are also good
to have. As someone said, one will
> always speak out when
their area of interest is mentioned and they have an
>
opinion to share.
>
> Regards,
>
Evans
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Harry
Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>
>
wrote:
>
>> Now we talking. Please if you happen
to be on this list, but presently
>> on
>>
“read-only-mode” ( a new phrase I have
learnt),****
>>
>> please realize you owe it
to this noble forum, started by noble people,
>> with
noble ideas at least in a way to leave
some****
>>
>>
mark…****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
So can we ensure that this forum carries the flag up higher and
make a
>> mark in this land and beyond that we can
believe ****
>>
>> in. Have looked around, do
not see any other forum with such
>>
broad/diverse
>>
membership.****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>> Let’s keep the ideas coming
in..****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
Harry****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
*From:* kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
*On
>> Behalf Of *Harry Hare
>> *Sent:*
Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:17 PM
>>
>> *To:*
harry at comtelsys.co.ke
>> *Cc:*
KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> *Subject:* Re:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into
the
>> dustbin...!****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>> Hey all, there is a strategy document
floating somewhere. I think this
>> could be a good
place to start – see what has been achieved, what
fell
>> by
>> the way side, identify what is
still relevant, plug in new ideas and
>> strengthen the
network. KICTANet should never be allowed to
"kick".****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> Harry
Hare****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
Director****
>>
>> African eDevelopment
Resource Centre****
>>
>> PO Box 49475
00100****
>>
>> Nairobi,
Kenya****
>>
>> Tel +254 20
4041646****
>>
>> Cel +254 725
650044****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:
*Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Thu,
12 Apr 2012 15:57:45 +0300
>> *To: *Harry Hare <harry at africanedevelopment.org>
>>
*Cc: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>
*Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked
into the
>> dustbin...!****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>> If we go back to early discussions
about the multi-stakeholder network
>> known as
KICTAnet I recall there being a distinction between the
mailing
>> list participants, and those stakeholders
who would actively engage in
>> KICTAnet
"activities".****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>> My take is that since there have been
no "activities" as such - the
>> feeling is that
KICTAnet has "kicked" to borrow a phrase from
>>
@Harry.****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>> I remember there used to be monthly
face-to-face meetings which followed
>> a
>>
particular topic or theme of interest and served as an
opportunity for
>> participants from the various
networks to meet within the context of the
>> "network
of networks". At the time there was program funding from
donor
>> to
>> cover costs of those meetings,
this has presumably, run out. Which leads
>>
me
>> to ask, can we mobilise funds locally? At least
for these gatherings? As
>> they will give a greater
element of traction to the organization while
>>
ensuring that it continues to remain relevant within the
sector.
>> Especially
>> as the melting pot
for policy debate.****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>> Best
regards,****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>> Brian****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM,
Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>>
wrote:****
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>>
Currently listed number is 690 members from diverse backgrounds
of
>> Media,
>> Academia, Govt, Regulator,
Telcos(fixed, mobile, wireless). But as you
>>
noted not everyone is active -80% are often in read-only
mode. That is
>> one
>> reason I thought
we needed new thinking and new
approaches...
>>
>>
walu.
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 4/12/12, Joseph
Mucheru <mucheru at google.com>*
wrote:****
>>
>>
>> From: Joseph
Mucheru <mucheru at google.com>****
>>
>>
>>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into
the
>> dustbin...!
>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT
Policy Discussions"
>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>****
>>
>>
Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 2:53
PM****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I
am certainly above 35 and enjoy not only records but also the
latest
>> collaboration technologies
"Google
>> Hangouts<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN38vHZjWXw>"
>>
I agree that we need to review our aim and strategies but we
need to
>> have a
>> representative forum that
allows for that to take place. @Brian you know
>> many
participant on this list are in read only
mode.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
@Walu/@Washington - can you give us an idea of the number of
people
>> actively subscribed to the list? Not the
names but the number. This will
>> be
>> a
good place to start. Dealing with facts and not guess
work.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
Thanks****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
Joe****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On
Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau
>>
<solo.mburu at gmail.com<http://mc/[email protected]>>
>>
wrote:****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
On 12 April 2012 14:26, robert yawe
>> <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/[email protected]>>
>>
wrote:****
>>
>>
Harry,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
We are ageing, email is loosing is lustre and the new generation
hate
>> records and prefer platforms like twitter and
facebook.****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>> The responsibility for keeping the
forum active remains with those over
>> 35
>>
year old who unfortunately are trying to fit in with the
younger
>> crowd.***
>>
*
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> uuummmmm
is there a way out of this
loop.^C****
>>
>>
>> I'm below 35,
but enjoy keeping records, in addition to facebook
and
>> twitter
>>
****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
Regards ****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System
Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th
Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>
Kenya****
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225
begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +254722511225 end_of_the_skype_highlighting,
+254202010696
begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +254202010696 end_of_the_skype_highlighting****
>>
------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*
Harry Delano
>> <harry at comtelsys.co.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>
>
>> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>> <http://mc/[email protected]>
>>
****
>>
>> *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions'
>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>>
>>
****
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 April 2012,
13:55****
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into
the
>> dustbin...!****
>>
>> **
**
>>
>>
Ara..!****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> Not many people seriously want to
rejuvenate this forum, as per
>> Brian/Walubengo’s
suggestion…?****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> Cannot imagine the forum becoming a
good case study one day for some
>> thesis student.
Whose research titles among others:-****
>>
>>
· “How-to-kill a good
forum, kick it into the dustbin and
>>
leave
>> it for the dead” ****
>>
>>
· “The rise and rise, and
fall and fall of a myriad of many
>> ICT
>>
forums in Kenya, the major one
being….****
>>
>> ·
“How-not-to build structural resilience and
offer strategic
>> leadership”. Why the big forum went
M.I.A, and petered out..****
>>
>> ·
And the final one perhaps, “ Do
not repeat the mistakes
>> listed
>> above,
time for a RESET..”!****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> Certainly, unless otherwise – we
might be headed for such a case
>> study.
>>
Not sure if I should patent the titles, just in
case..!****
>>
>>
****
>>
>>
Harry****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> ****
>>
>>
*From:*
>> kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>[mailto:
>>
kictanet-bounces+harry <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=
>>
comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>]
>>
*On Behalf Of *Brian Munyao Longwe
>> *Sent:* Thursday,
April 12, 2012 12:50 AM
>> *To:* harry at comtelsys.co.ke <http://mc/[email protected]>
>>
*Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> *Subject:* Re:
[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into
the
>> dustbin...!****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> I think Walu is on the right track.
Every organisation for-profit or
>> not,
>>
has to reassess it's strategy, relevance, business direction and
thrust
>> periodically or risk falling into the
shadows.****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> Is it time for KICTAnet to do
so?****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> As one of the founders and a
trustee I think that the time has
come.****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> My 2
shillings,****
>>
>>
****
>>
>> Brian****
>>
>>
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Walubengo J
>> <jwalu at yahoo.com<http://mc/[email protected]>>
>>
wrote:****
>>
>>
@Wash,
>>
>> Maybe Delano is insinuating
something. Perhaps KICTAnet needs to
>>
re-juvinate
>> and re-energize. Bring in new blood and
thinking. What do we want from
>> KICTAnet, 8yrs later?
What management structures, membership structures,
>>
operational, financial structures do we want to see going
forward?
>>
>> Perhaps a brainstorming
face2face session is due. I for one have been
>>
the
>> moderator since inception and maybe someone else
can do a better job and
>> we
>> just have not
asked them to come forth. Think about it - I could
have
>> run
>> out of ideas or some younger
dot.commer <http://dot.com> may just be
>>
sitting on better ways of moderation that I have never
imagined...
>>
>> just my
2pings.
>>
>> walu.
>>
>>
--- On *Wed, 4/11/12, Odhiambo Washington
>> <odhiambo at gmail.com<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>
>* wrote:****
>>
>>
>> From:
Odhiambo Washington
>> <odhiambo at gmail.com<http://mc/[email protected]>
>>
>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive..
kickin, or kicked into the
>> dustbin...!
>>
To: jwalu at yahoo.com <http://mc/[email protected]>
>>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
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>
>> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 3:50
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>>
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>> ****
>>
>>
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 14:59, Harry Delano
>> <harry at comtelsys.co.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>>
>>
wrote:****
>>
>> I’m not sure which is which,
until I see some response on whether we
>>
might
>> just as well happen to be drifting along
rudderless…!!****
>>
>>
****
>>
>>
>> You mean the
post-Easter stupor, or??
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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