[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!

Thu Apr 12 16:49:39 EAT 2012

Now we talking. Please if you happen to be on this list, but presently on “read-only-mode” ( a new phrase I have learnt),

please realize you owe it to this noble forum, started by noble people, with noble ideas at least in a way to leave some

mark…

So can we ensure that this forum carries the flag up higher and make a mark in this land and beyond that we can believe 

in. Have looked around, do not see any other forum with such broad/diverse membership.

Let’s keep the ideas coming in..

Harry

From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Hare
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:17 PM
To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!

Hey all, there is a strategy document floating somewhere. I think this could be a good place to start – see what has been achieved, what fell by the way side, identify what is still relevant, plug in new ideas and strengthen the network. KICTANet should never be allowed to "kick".

Harry Hare

Director

African eDevelopment Resource Centre

PO Box 49475 00100

Nairobi, Kenya

Tel +254 20 4041646

Cel +254 725 650044

From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:57:45 +0300
To: Harry Hare <harry at africanedevelopment.org>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!

If we go back to early discussions about the multi-stakeholder network known as KICTAnet I recall there being a distinction between the mailing list participants, and those stakeholders who would actively engage in KICTAnet "activities".

My take is that since there have been no "activities" as such - the feeling is that KICTAnet has "kicked" to borrow a phrase from @Harry.

I remember there used to be monthly face-to-face meetings which followed a particular topic or theme of interest and served as an opportunity for participants from the various networks to meet within the context of the "network of networks". At the time there was program funding from donor to cover costs of those meetings, this has presumably, run out. Which leads me to ask, can we mobilise funds locally? At least for these gatherings? As they will give a greater element of traction to the organization while ensuring that it continues to remain relevant within the sector. Especially as the melting pot for policy debate.

Best regards,

Brian

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

Joe,

Currently listed number is 690 members from diverse backgrounds of Media, Academia, Govt, Regulator, Telcos(fixed, mobile, wireless).  But as you noted not everyone is active -80% are often in read-only mode.  That is one reason I thought we needed new thinking and new approaches...

walu. 

--- On Thu, 4/12/12, Joseph Mucheru <mucheru at google.com> wrote:

From: Joseph Mucheru <mucheru at google.com>

Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!
To: jwalu at yahoo.com
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>

Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 2:53 PM

I am certainly above 35 and enjoy not only records but also the latest collaboration technologies "Google Hangouts <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN38vHZjWXw> " I agree that we need to review our aim and strategies but we need to have a representative forum that allows for that to take place. @Brian you know many participant on this list are in read only mode.

@Walu/@Washington - can you give us an idea of the number of people actively subscribed to the list? Not the names but the number. This will be a good place to start. Dealing with facts and not guess work.

Thanks

Joe

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=solo.mburu@gmail.com> > wrote:

On 12 April 2012 14:26, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk <http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote:

Harry,

We are ageing, email is loosing is lustre and the new generation hate records and prefer platforms like twitter and facebook.

The responsibility for keeping the forum active remains with those over 35 year old who unfortunately are trying to fit in with the younger crowd.

uuummmmm is there a way out of this loop.^C

I'm below 35, but enjoy keeping records, in addition to facebook and twitter

Regards 

Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

  _____  

From: Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke> >
To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk <http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>  

Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> > 

Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2012, 13:55

Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!

Ara..!

Not many people seriously want to rejuvenate this forum, as per Brian/Walubengo’s suggestion…?

Cannot imagine the forum becoming a good case study one day for some thesis student. Whose research titles among others:-

·         “How-to-kill a good forum, kick it into the dustbin and leave it for the dead” 

·         “The rise and rise, and fall and fall of a myriad of many ICT forums in Kenya, the major one being….

·         “How-not-to build structural resilience and offer strategic leadership”. Why the big forum went M.I.A, and petered out..

·         And the final one perhaps, “ Do not repeat the mistakes listed above, time for a RESET..”!

Certainly, unless otherwise – we might be headed for such a case study. Not sure if I should patent the titles, just in case..!

Harry

From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke <http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>  [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet-bounces%2Bharry> =comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke <http://mc/compose?to=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> ] On Behalf Of Brian Munyao Longwe
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:50 AM
To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke> 
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!

I think Walu is on the right track. Every organisation for-profit or not, has to reassess it's strategy, relevance, business direction and thrust periodically or risk falling into the shadows.

Is it time for KICTAnet to do so?

As one of the founders and a trustee I think that the time has come.

My 2 shillings,

Brian

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> > wrote:

@Wash,

Maybe Delano is insinuating something. Perhaps KICTAnet needs to re-juvinate
and re-energize. Bring in new blood and thinking. What do we want from KICTAnet, 8yrs later? What management structures, membership structures, operational, financial structures do we want to see going forward?

Perhaps a brainstorming face2face session is due. I for one have been the moderator since inception and maybe someone else can do a better job and we just have not asked them to come forth. Think about it - I could have run out of ideas or some younger dot.commer <http://dot.com>  may just be sitting on better ways of moderation that I have never imagined...

just my 2pings.

walu.

--- On Wed, 4/11/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!
To: jwalu at yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com> 
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> >
Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 3:50 PM

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 14:59, Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=harry@comtelsys.co.ke> > wrote:

I’m not sure which is which, until I see some response on whether we might just as well happen to be drifting along rudderless…!!

You mean the post-Easter stupor, or??

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Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254733744121/+254722743223
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