[kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the dustbin...!

Thu Apr 12 15:55:43 EAT 2012

for all its worth, i think KiCTANET serves a role that ought not to be
disrupted. When i have beef with my service provider, if im courteous
enough and present my case in a way that does not necessarily translate to
direct attacks on individual, it is a forum i am sure my grievances will
reach up there. KiCTANET to me represents some form of e - justice where
technically it is very wanting, (ever gone to report to the police that
someone has refused to transfer your domain name to you? ) My take ? in all
these restructuring lets not lose focus of that.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> Currently listed number is 690 members from diverse backgrounds of Media,
> Academia, Govt, Regulator, Telcos(fixed, mobile, wireless).  But as you
> noted not everyone is active -80% are often in read-only mode.  That is one
> reason I thought we needed new thinking and new approaches...
>
> walu.
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/12/12, Joseph Mucheru <mucheru at google.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Joseph Mucheru <mucheru at google.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
> dustbin...!
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 2:53 PM
>
>
> I am certainly above 35 and enjoy not only records but also the latest
> collaboration technologies "Google Hangouts<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN38vHZjWXw>"
> I agree that we need to review our aim and strategies but we need to have a
> representative forum that allows for that to take place. @Brian you know
> many participant on this list are in read only mode.
>
> @Walu/@Washington - can you give us an idea of the number of people
> actively subscribed to the list? Not the names but the number. This will be
> a good place to start. Dealing with facts and not guess work.
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com<http://mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> On 12 April 2012 14:26, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> Harry,
>
> We are ageing, email is loosing is lustre and the new generation hate
> records and prefer platforms like twitter and facebook.
>
> The responsibility for keeping the forum active remains with those over 35
> year old who unfortunately are trying to fit in with the younger crowd.
>
> uuummmmm is there a way out of this loop.^C
>
>
> I'm below 35, but enjoy keeping records, in addition to facebook and
> twitter
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk <http://mc/[email protected]>
> *Cc:* 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>>
>
>  *Sent:* Thursday, 12 April 2012, 13:55
>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
> dustbin...!
>
> Ara..!
>
> Not many people seriously want to rejuvenate this forum, as per
> Brian/Walubengo’s suggestion…?
>
> Cannot imagine the forum becoming a good case study one day for some
> thesis student. Whose research titles among others:-
> ·         “How-to-kill a good forum, kick it into the dustbin and leave
> it for the dead”
> ·         “The rise and rise, and fall and fall of a myriad of many ICT
> forums in Kenya, the major one being….
> ·         “How-not-to build structural resilience and offer strategic
> leadership”. Why the big forum went M.I.A, and petered out..
> ·         And the final one perhaps, “ Do not repeat the mistakes listed
> above, time for a RESET..”!
>
> Certainly, unless otherwise – we might be headed for such a case study.
> Not sure if I should patent the titles, just in case..!
>
> Harry
>
>
> *From:* kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>[mailto:
> kictanet-bounces+harry <http://mc/compose?to=kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=
> comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>]
> *On Behalf Of *Brian Munyao Longwe
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:50 AM
> *To:* harry at comtelsys.co.ke <http://mc/[email protected]>
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
> dustbin...!
>
> I think Walu is on the right track. Every organisation for-profit or not,
> has to reassess it's strategy, relevance, business direction and thrust
> periodically or risk falling into the shadows.
>
> Is it time for KICTAnet to do so?
>
> As one of the founders and a trustee I think that the time has come.
>
> My 2 shillings,
>
> Brian
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com<http://mc/[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> @Wash,
>
> Maybe Delano is insinuating something. Perhaps KICTAnet needs to
> re-juvinate
> and re-energize. Bring in new blood and thinking. What do we want from
> KICTAnet, 8yrs later? What management structures, membership structures,
> operational, financial structures do we want to see going forward?
>
> Perhaps a brainstorming face2face session is due. I for one have been the
> moderator since inception and maybe someone else can do a better job and we
> just have not asked them to come forth. Think about it - I could have run
> out of ideas or some younger dot.commer <http://dot.com> may just be
> sitting on better ways of moderation that I have never imagined...
>
> just my 2pings.
>
> walu.
>
> --- On *Wed, 4/11/12, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >* wrote:
>
> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kictanet alive.. kickin, or kicked into the
> dustbin...!
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com <http://mc/[email protected]>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>
> >
> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 3:50 PM
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 14:59, Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke<http://mc/[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> I’m not sure which is which, until I see some response on whether we might
> just as well happen to be drifting along rudderless…!!
>
>
> You mean the post-Easter stupor, or??
>
>
> --
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> Nairobi,KE
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