[kictanet] Fw: Ndemo's Presidential Debate Final Report?

[Barrack Otieno]

Peter,

That is a very interesting school of thought.

Kind Regards

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:04 PM, <mpodhiambo at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Listers,
>   Forwarded is a thread I wish to share. Some two cents on a tech
> repository of our languages-----
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:36:48
> To: <mpodhiambo at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: bitange at jambo.co.ke
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ndemo's Presidential Debate Final Report?
>
> Odhiambo,
> Did you not want to share this?  It is absurd that we need the language to
> express ourselves and at the same time have so many educated and unemployed
> Kenyans.
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpodhiambo at yahoo.com
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:19:41
> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> Reply-To: mpodhiambo at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ndemo's Presidential Debate Final Report?
>
> Daktari,
>   Though I concur with your thesis...I dare not conceive that considering
> discarding our languages should even be an option!
>   Science has told us we think in vernacular then translate to other
> languages. That's a given. I submit that our languages are part of our
> 'genetic code' through which we view, understand and relate with the rest
> of the world. Discarding our languages therefore would result in a slavery
> of sorts since we would need to use 'imported genetic code' to view,
> understand and relate with not just the world but ,regrettably, with
> ourselves as well! We would be a 'GMO' so to speak.
>    Indeed the part of the world that is producing technology on a large
> scale as opposed to us(consumers of technology on a large scale) learn in
> there 'genetic code' or at least have a repository of it.
>    Resolved:Making our languages more expressive and dynamic is key-I
> think we could introduce this much needed dynamism as we create a
> tech-repository of our languages. Indeed we should create institutes of
> Maasai,Kamba,Taita etc within our Universities-Makerere seems to be ahead
> in this in the region. I think they introduced diplomas on local indigenous
> languages(Luo,Luganda,Runyakitara,Kiswahili,Ateso). To have the institutes
> is one side of the coin, to complement the institutes with tech---so that
> they serve as the supply end to the tech-repository for our languages is
> the second side of the coin. The third side of the coin is to engage the
> universities in research(actual and meaningful).
>   Cheers.
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:24:51
> To: <mpodhiambo at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: bitange at jambo.co.ke
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ndemo's Presidential Debate Final Report?
>
> Odhiambo,
> Most unfortunate, we have no repository for any of our languages.  Will it
> be possible if the tech community created local wikis?  Oral cultures do
> not help in sustaining a language.  Since language is a key development
> component, shouldn't we be creating institutes of Digo, Kikuyu, Dholuo,
> Bukusu etc in our Universities.
>
> We can develop a highly Knowledgeable society within a short period if we
> address the dynamic nature of language and its repository.  My thesis is
> that our backwardness is as a result of using non expressive non dynamic
> languages and our continued use of them will undermine our long term
> economic  growth.  Should we consider discarding these languages?
>
> Recently we debated on the poverty of English language in our journalism.
>  This is because we think in venacular then try to write in English
> (several studies reveal this).  For Africa to change, we must be bold and
> adopt what will bring us to bar with the rest of the world.
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpodhiambo at yahoo.com
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:49:47
> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> Reply-To: mpodhiambo at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ndemo's Presidential Debate Final Report?
>
> Daktari,
>      You seem to be pointing out a very pertinent issue in African
> Languages. It appears we've been  socialised without the vocabulary for
> development. I encountered this when looking for the word 'maintenance'
> (differentiate with repair) in dholuo. I came to nought.      I put it that
> we've been talking but not communicating! Cheers
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke
> Sender: kictanet-bounces+mpodhiambo=yahoo.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:19:00
> To: mpodhiambo at yahoo.com<mpodhiambo at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: bitange at jambo.co.ke
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ndemo's Presidential Debate Final Report?
>
> Grace,
> Approximately 90% of development language centers around those words.
>  Could it be that we have not been talking?  Couuld this be the reason why
> Africa lags behind?  Are our leaders communicating?
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.keDate:
> Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:21:52
> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: [kictanet] Ndemo's Presidential Debate Final Report?
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