[kictanet] The new Constitution - Declining English grammar in our Newsprint

Fri Oct 14 12:41:35 EAT 2011

Some great points on reading and learning language in James' email. I still
think it's one of the greatest gifts that my parents have given me: they
read us a bedtime story every night until we could read on our own. .

I got so ticked off by the Standard's front page this morning that I took to
my blog:
http://andreabohnstedt.blogspot.com/

But I loved this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/public-bookshelves-spread-across-germany-allowing-free-access-to-literature/2011/10/14/gIQA4niBjL_story.html?wprss=rss_world

I wonder if this would work in Nairobi (just to get started)? Maybe next to
dhukas? Maybe with StoryMoja (or rather their trust)? Maybe with a couple of
motivated people who'd each adopt a bookshelf and help look after it?

I also really like http://www.bookcrossing.com/

Maybe combine both?

Happy Friday, everyone!

Andrea

On 12 October 2011 17:16, James Mbugua <jgmbugua at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've refrained from commenting on this post as a newspaper man myself but
> without appearing to split hairs over nothing, may I point out that we do
> not have declining grammar as it implies that we are losing words to history
> and that the lexicon available for use in telling news stories is
> diminishing. Perhaps the post should be titled, "Deteriorating grammar...."
>
> That being said, I do concur that the writing has really gone down
> especially when, in an age of word processors with spell check it should be
> error free.
>
> I blame diminished reading first and foremost. As much as the language is
> taught in schools, it is books such as novels that teach people how to put
> phrases rather than words together in varied ways. Pervasive television and
> internet have seen the decline of the novel as a primary form of
> entertainment/hobby.
>
> The other is of course teaching which is taught by people who should
> themselves undergo refresher courses in the language (i.e. skills like
> writing and reading) and are at the same time under pressure to coach kids
> to pass exams not master the language. This means people are leaving school
> without the mechanics of the language.
>
> I've always thought the solution to be a reduced number of subjects in
> elementary school such as English, Mathematics and a general paper. This
> will allow more time to work on teaching the language.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:58 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am wondering why no one has raised the issue of the changes to the
>> constitution documents that Hon. Karua and Mungatana raised in parliament on
>> Tuesday where;
>>
>> The draft Bill read: “The party list shall not contain a name of any
>> candidate nominated for an election under this Act.”
>>
>> The amendment read: “The party list may contain a name of any candidate
>> nominated for an election under this Act.”
>>
>> Published as “The party list may not contain a name of any presidential or
>> deputy presidential candidate nominated for an election under this Act.”
>> I am sure there are hundreds more of these and NARC decided to only pick
>> what they felt affected them directly.
>> This reminds me of the case where former Hon. Muite picked a similar
>> 'error' where the statement "not less than" was changed to "not more than"
>> in relation to the number of days between dissolution of parliament and the
>> date of the election.
>>
>> The rot is worse than we think even with a new CJ, AG and a Supreme Court
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 October 2011, 13:06
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>>
>> This is hardly and either-or issue, isn't it? If I see lousy spelling etc
>> in newspapers, I wonder how diligent the media houses are with their facts
>> if they can't even sort out that. Copyediting is quality control, and being
>> serious about quality control is useful in every sector, whether media or
>> farming.
>>
>> If Kenya wants to compete internationally, it helps having university
>> graduates who can put together an application letter in proper English
>> rather than SMS English (I've got those, just in case you don't believe me).
>>
>>
>> Learning a language properly is not just about fixing typos in newspapers.
>> As someone said earlier on this thread, it starts in school. A large
>> vocabulary, an understanding of sentences, structure etc actually help you
>> think, conceptualise, abstract. It helps you ask critical question,
>> interrogate issues, and find out things.
>>
>> All useful for your own career, all useful for the wider economy, all
>> useful for forex revenues.
>>
>> On 12 October 2011 12:54, charles nduati <charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Surely how important is it to have correct grammar in newspapers? given
>> all other misquotations they always propagate.
>>
>> Rather than us spending time correcting them, why don't we spend time
>> actualizing the great ideas Daktari Ndemo gave us a few weeks back
>> especially examples of how much we loose in forex when importing tomatoes
>> whereas ours lot in shambas. No wonder the shilling is loosing so much as a
>> result
>>
>> We all know how the west is declining economically despite their being up
>> there in ICT. some one from there told me the other day that, they now need
>> to go back to basics of producing real goods and services in agriculture so
>> that they have something REAL to export ELSE    they will soon start
>> receiving food aid from the BRICS
>>
>> Kenya should learn something from this.
>>
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> Charles Nduati
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Kamotho Njenga <kamothonjenga at gmail.com>
>> *To:* charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk
>>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 October 2011, 20:57
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This debate keeps getting interesting with time especially when those
>> castigating the poor grammar done by others get caught committing the same
>> sin they are trying to uproot. Close to 90% of the posts that have come
>> stand guilty of one or two counts of grammatical crimes. All the same we
>> might argue that this forum is not a newspaper and hence escape without
>> injuries. But whether we admit it or not, there is a problem that pertains
>> to the use of the queen's language not just within the newspaper circles but
>> across the board. From a general perspective I have discovered that very few
>> of our college students can express themselves in English without
>> punctuating their statements with the "as in" and "you know" phrases at
>> every pause.
>>
>> So, what could be the real issue?
>> When I was growing up in the village, I attended a primary school where
>> the English subject was taught by two teachers with fundamentally opposing
>> characteristics. One of the teachers who I initially admired taught us the
>> queens language in vernacular. When he attempted to use the official
>> language, he simply replaced the mother tongue with English words ending up
>> with chaotic statements like "come here both of you two naughty boys, can
>> you sleep down so that I beat you immediately"... and so on.
>>
>> The other teacher, a certain Mr Macharia was a stickler to proper
>> spelling, pronunciation, intonation and even vocal chord movements. He was
>> very emphatic against reasoning in mother-tongue if one had the intention of
>> conveying the message in English. At the early stages I found him too strict
>> but over time I was able to adjust and I believe since then I do speak some
>> thing close to English whenever I want to. I still revere him to date.
>>
>> The point is that no matter how much we get disillusioned the cure lies at
>> the basic levels of learning. As they say the rules of language are
>> internalized in the early years of life. Were it not for the intervention
>> of  Mr. Macharia, you can rest assured that I would have done this post in a
>> mother-tongue concoction and maybe you would have needed somebody to do the
>> translation. For those within my age and beyond who never had the luxury of
>> such tutorship as I received and may want to become editors in the language,
>> I feel sorry that age may not be very kind after a certain thresh-hold. But
>> you can use this little advise to caution the younger ones within your reach
>> who may possibly keep the newsprint industry going when the likes of Philip
>> Ochieng and Bw. Gaitho have left the ring.
>>
>> Kamotho
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Andrea Bohnstedt <
>> andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
>>
>> 'Morgage' in a big fat headline, too.
>>
>> More wonderful internet things: 'spelt' looked odd to me for a second, so
>> I looked it up. 'spelled' and 'spelt' can be used interchangeably according
>> to this page (and several other sources):
>> http://www.grammarist.com/spelling/spelled-spelt/
>>
>> The website also has useful style advice and a bunch of fun quizzes on
>> commonly confused words, British vs American English, homophones and
>> irregular plural nouns:
>>  http://www.grammarist.com/grammarist-quizzes/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 October 2011 18:47, luke mulunda <lmulunda at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> That skill that doesn't come with English degree is "meticulous eye for
>> detail." Today I saw "mortgage" spelt as "morgage" is a very serious
>> business magazine.
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> *To:* luke <lmulunda at yahoo.com>
>>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:12 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>>
>> Hi Andrea,
>>
>> You got me on that one, it was meant to be digressing.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> PS.  Thanks for the correction
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 October 2011, 16:08
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> I don't think I said that a jobless graduate is inferior - a jobless
>> graduate is just jobless. That, in itself, is not necessarily a sign of
>> qualification or lack of qualification.
>>
>> Outsourcing services or not is a different debate. You outsource because
>> others can deliver a specific service cheaper and better than you can within
>> your company. Depends.
>>
>> All I'm saying is: it takes more than being an English graduate (jobless
>> or employed) to be a copy editor. Copy editing involves a specific skill set
>> that doesn't come with an English degree.
>>
>> I'd also point out (before Mr Gaitho gets there) that 'you are disgracing'
>> isn't a proper sentence. Am I disgraceful? Or digressing? Or am I disgracing
>> something or someone? :)
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>> On 11 October 2011 15:17, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Andrea,
>>
>> You are disgracing, what I was responding to was your issue that
>> suggested that a jobless graduate was inferior to an employed one.
>>
>> I concur with you on the issue of having the senior editors educate the
>> newbies, what could be done in my outsourcing model would be to deduct a
>> certain amount for every error picked up further ahead in the chain,
>>
>> "hit where it hurts most"
>>
>> Many people who jumped on the initial outsourcing "gravy train" got
>> shut-down due to the high costs of the errors they made when transcribing,
>> some ended up receiving invoices instead of cheques.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 October 2011, 10:56
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> Whether you have your editing outsourced or not is mainly a questions of
>> how you structure the contracts - do you have people on the payroll, or do
>> you have them work as freelancer. Or you could have them on the payroll, but
>> have them work online, so they can work anywhere and don't need to be
>> physically present in the office.
>>
>> However, that's secondary to quality, although I'd argue that for key
>> functions, it'd be more useful to have them on payroll and in the office. A
>> lot of mistakes occur again and again, so if I were in charge of cleaning up
>> copy (and I was milimetres away from applying for that position with the
>> Star), I'd try to develop an approach that would teach the journalists to
>> avoid them. I'd hunt down anyone who still uses 'greenbuck' and 'curving a
>> niche' and who uses 'adorn' wrongly.
>>
>> My point is: 'English graduate' in itself is not a qualification for good
>> copy editing. That requires a lot more than an English degree. It's entirely
>> possible that someone with an English degree makes for a good copy editor,
>> but it requires a lot more than that.
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>> On 11 October 2011 09:36, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrea,
>>
>> What is outsourcing if not sending out what has been standardised, as some
>> have mentioned that it is becoming too expensive to hire editors why not
>> outsource the same.
>>
>> A jobless language graduate is no different from an employed language
>> graduate, the graduate is jobless because the media houses cannot afford to
>> pay them to sit in the office to work so why not apply technology.
>>
>> That graduate sitting in Chepalungu can go to Pasha centre every evening
>> after tending the firm or teaching at  the local primary school log onto the
>> web and proof read articles due for publishing.  At 500/- per article the
>> media house will spend 15,000/-, no pension or medical expenses, no desk
>> space required, no tea at 10 and 4, one less supervisor, our food security
>> will have moved a step forward, the slums in Nairobi will grow that much
>> slower, the local school will have another teacher thus reducing the
>> teacher/student ratio and last and least you and I will be less stressed by
>> the mediocrity that has manifested in the media.
>>
>> "Think global but act local"
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Monday, 10 October 2011, 10:41
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>>
>> What Catherine said. Editing, proofreading, subbing require skill and
>> experience and knowledge - it's *not* something you can just farm out to
>> jobless graduates.
>>
>> On 10 October 2011 10:16, Catherine Adeya <elizaslider at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think there is a wrong impression that a Journalism graduate is best
>> suited to edit a paper. You may be better off with an English major
>> graduate, Linguistics graduate and Information Sciences (Publishing Major)
>> graduate. The IS course at MU had a renowned editing course in the '80s with
>> the late Jonathan Kariara. I do not know how they are doing now. I remember
>> him teaching an editing class and emphasizing the importance of good
>> grammar, good English and simplicity especially when communicating to the
>> wider market. I remember "Class, it is easier to say "walk" rather than
>> "perambulate" even though they mean the same thing.  He gave an example of
>> certain words that you must be extremely careful about when editing...they
>> are words that you must counter-check and DO NOT AT ANY COST rely on  your
>> computer (the class already had experience in this).
>>
>> Let me give you an example of one of those words and forgive me as I have
>> no intention to be vulgar. Two years ago I was in Dar and I was reading
>> their top local paper. The heading in one of the lead stories was 'President
>> opens a Pubic library'......I can't remember whether it was a library or
>> what but you know the word I am referring to. I actually drew the attention
>> of someone I knew to this major error and she promised to get in touch with
>> the editor. My point is such words on a spell-checker will be correct, it
>> requires as well trained eye to still sweep over the document and pick words
>> like this. Even in the the Kenyan case we lack this seriously yet the
>> qualified people are there. I am glad this topic has come up because
>> sometimes I just put the paper aside as I am horrified at the level of
>> grammar and editorial mistakes. The same happens with the news that is
>> scrolled during News broadcasts....and while I am at that... some of the
>> Opinion questions are SO ABSURD and even worse they are  grammatically
>> wrong...wrong...wrong....
>>
>> Enough said....
>>
>> Nyaki
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Victor Bwire <victor at article19.org>
>> *To:* elizaslider at yahoo.com
>>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2011 11:29 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>>
>> Infact it is the ICT use that is the cause of the problem- given the
>> little ICT literacy by some of our newsrooms- most of our sub editors learn
>> computer by on job-rarely able to master command of the computer functions-
>> including grammer, spell checks-it will continue happening
>>
>>
>>
>> Previously, we used to print hard copies of the articles for editing
>> manually with red pens- thus very few mistakes- but now
>>
>> Many of journalism courses do not include introduction to computer
>> lessons- so how will the graduates know how to use them
>>
>>
>>
>> Who regulates journalism training or draws the course or approves the same
>> in the country anyway- if you even happen to see some course outlines
>> offered in some of the colleges and universities offering journalism
>> including Government ones- you will feel sorry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> jratemo at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 04 October 2011 21:16
>> To: Victor Bwire
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint
>>
>> Bwana PS what are you insinuating? We open our newsrooms fro the so called
>> English majors? Some of them are in the newsrooms already...maybe they are
>> sleeping on the job...my opinion
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:11 PM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke<mailto:
>> bitange at jambo.co.ke>> wrote:
>> All of today's newspapers had several grammatical errors.  At this time
>> and age of ICT, is it not too embarrasing to have such errors?  We have
>> thousands of English majors without jobs.  It is time for media to be
>> thorough in what they do by utilizing our many graduates without jobs.  As a
>> Kenyan I get embarrased to see such errors.
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
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>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
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>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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>> Publisher
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>> www.ratio-magazine.com
>> Find/post East Africa careers<http://www.ratio-magazine.com/careers/index.php>
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>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
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>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
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>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
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>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>>
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>>
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>> --
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>> Publisher
>> +254 720 960 322
>>
>> www.ratio-magazine.com
>> Find/post East Africa careers<http://www.ratio-magazine.com/careers/index.php>
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>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
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>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for
> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
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> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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