[kictanet] FW: Legalizing Phone Tapping in Kenya?

[Edith Adera]

Can you say the same about corruption? We need deeper discussions about limitations/exceptions, issues of privacy etc. Lets not always look for the easy way out. 


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From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Mark Mwangi
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:57 AM
To: Edith Adera
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Legalizing Phone Tapping in Kenya?

well seeing as they are doing it anyway, why not legalize it?

On 10/5/11, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia at gmail.com> wrote:
> All u can do is to be careful what u say on phone.
>
> Like last year we just sat outside Hilton with bluetooth capture tools 
> on Backtrack and since most people use headsets when driving, the kind 
> of chatter we captured during that wardrive was hilarious.
>
> So in short, its not just the government which can illegally do this, 
> its any one who has an understanding of Infosec.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> ./Chucks
>
> On 10/5/11, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke> wrote:
>> Listers,
>>
>> Can we have a structured discussion on this issue? The issue seemed 
>> buried by IGF, but is an important issue to discuss. Someone shared 
>> the draft bill on this list.
>>
>> KICTANET Moderators?
>>
>> Edith
>>
>> From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On 
>> Behalf Of Edith Adera
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:13 PM
>> To: Edith Adera
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legalizing Phone Tapping in Kenya?
>>
>> In the newspaper article, the bill referred to is called the 
>> "National Intelligence Services Bill" - what role can the ICT 
>> industry play to inform this bill that is touching on an ICT issue 
>> (privacy in the digital environment? etc). A key issue in the current 
>> IGF debate!
>>
>> Edith
>> From: Barrack Otieno [mailto:otieno.barrack at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:30 PM
>> To: Edith Adera
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legalizing Phone Tapping in Kenya?
>>
>> Dear Edith,
>>
>> Thank you for setting the ball rolling, in the absence of a framework 
>> on Freedom of Information we are likely to experience such issues, 
>> well Ministry of Infocom has done well but if my memory is still ok i 
>> recall the issue was somewhere in bunge, i wonder what Eng Rege has 
>> to say about that, of late so many bills have been going through, i 
>> hope the Information Society is not being left behind.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Edith Adera 
>> <eadera at idrc.or.ke<mailto:eadera at idrc.or.ke>> wrote:
>> Listers,
>>
>> Many of us may have missed the front page news in the nation 
>> newspapers yesterday given the flurry of activities at the IGF.
>>
>> This idea poses many questions - is this the way to go? What are the 
>> implications? etc etc.
>>
>> Coming at the time when Kenya is hosting the IGF begs for a debate 
>> and deep reflection as a country.
>>
>> Can we have a public debate on this and inform the draft bill? The 
>> public hardly has the opportunity to debate bills that make their way 
>> to parliament (despite the new constitution enshrining this as a 
>> requirement - or is it a right?). I indeed hope this time it will be 
>> different given the over 20 million mobile users in Kenya - they have 
>> a stake in this.
>>
>> Look forward to reactions.
>>
>> Edith
>>
>>
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