[kictanet] How to fix public transport

Fri Nov 11 14:17:35 EAT 2011

Nicholas,

Higher wages do not necessarily mean that bribery will reduce,we have highly paid government officials who still ask for bribes,the biggest problem in kenya is moral decay and lack of patritism,we do wrong and we do not care at because we do not care about ethics and norms. 
The society glorifies those who have regardless of how they acquire their  wealth.

Regards

Noor

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From: "Nicholas J Dear" <ndear at sundayafternoon.me.uk>
Sender: kictanet-bounces+mahmoods21=gmail.com at lists.kictanet.or.keDate: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:41:57 
To: noor<mahmoods21 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] How to fix public transport

I don't think you can expect to reform the police without
paying them a proper wage, instilling a sense of pride in
their work and giving them the necessary resources to
perform. When some police are forced to live in slums, is it
any surprise that they will try and extort money from
motorists directly or indirectly? I'm not pretending there
is a quick fix to this issue but the very basics have to be
addressed first.

N.

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> The police must be reformed first! They work together
> and are also owners of
> these matatus. It is very frustrating because even when
> you report or
> threaten to report, you are ridiculed by the
> drivers/makangas as they now
> nothing will happen to them. Recently at Westlands
> roundabout a makanga
> threatened to deflate my tires because I refused to
> move to allow them make
> an illegal turn. This was after he had hauled all sort
> of abuses and I
> appeared unmoved. What made it worse was that am a lady
> and therefore he
> knew I could do much too him but thanks to fellow
> motorists, he was
> threatened with mob justice for harassing me and its
> only then that he went
> away.
> 
> Jane
> 
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> 
> Well said Nicholas.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Nicholas J Dear
> <ndear at sundayafternoon.me.uk> wrote:
> > What's needed is proper enforcement of the law by the
> > police. The laws exist. The police exist. The law
> simply
> > isn't enforced.
> >
> > To get proper enforcement, pay the police properly,
> instil
> > discipline from the top and give them proper training
> and
> > resources on how to do their job. That's what's
> needed.
> >
> > N.
> >
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> >>
> >> Well Cleophas we cannot give up on our country East
> or
> >> West home is
> >> best, we have got to do something as citizens. I
> >> recently gave one of
> >> the matatu drivers a piece of my mind for cutting in
> >> and he asked me
> >> who i thought i was because he had cut in over 50
> >> Vehicles on Langata
> >> road, i told him i was a patriotic citizen and
> >> custodian of the law ,
> >> i reminded him that  ought to be in approved school,
> i
> >> wonder if they
> >> still exist, some of them just behave live spoilt
> >> children.
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Cleophas Barmasai
> >> <cbarmasai at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Barrack,
> >> >
> >> > Simply, unbelievable! I wonder who will help on
> this.
> >> >
> >> > Cleophas
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Barrack Otieno
> >> <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=200004
> >> 6525&cid=4&ttl=A%20first-
> >> hand%20experience%20of%20matatu%20madness
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Dennis Kioko
> >> <dmbuvi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Citi Hoppas attempt right angled turns at high
> >> speeds and the laws of
> >> >> > physics do not allow that , the same way that
> they
> >> do not allow this
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-
> >>
> ash4/260520_10150232896049396_735124395_6979034_743714_
> >> a.jpg
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mr. Moi also had it going with the Nyayo Bus,
> >> until he changed his
> >> >> > priority
> >> >> > to political survival and abandoned Nyayo
> projects
> >> for one Nyayo project
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Barrack O. Otieno
> >> >> +254721325277
> >> >> +254-20-2498789
> >> >> Skype: barrack.otieno
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