[kictanet] Fw: kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48-offside.

robert yawe robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jun 16 13:28:07 EAT 2011


Hi Walu,


You cannot close a discussion by adding firewood to the flames, your action 
might be construed to be a  reflection of what daktari said, the more children 
you have  the less attention you are able to give them.

Your need to have the final word confirms what daktari was reiterating and it 
does have a bearing on ICT, see the number of siblings that the top technology 
innovators had and then the relationship will become clearer.

Regards

PS.  I am a middle  child and like you has always wanted to have the final word, 
I declare this discussion officially terminated. 
 Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya


Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696




________________________________
From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 19:53:52
Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48-offside.


Daktari, Ory & Rigia

I was hoping this thread would die on its own but now you have fueled it and I 
am forced to declare it off-topic to present  further discussion since I am 
unable to see the connection between number of babies and ICTs ;-)

But as a parting shot (and I hope am the last one to speak on this off-topic 
item) - the more babies the merrier. Look at the the top ten economies US, 
China, Japan, Korea, India, Brazil etc and you realize they are all 
"over-populated" from an economist point view.  It means that perhaps that 
over-population is the source of development.

walu.
 

--- On Wed, 6/15/11, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:


>From: bitange at jambo.co.ke  <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48
>To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 6:40 PM
>
>
>Ory,
>I have been giving these speeches on population management.  Unless we
>stop at number 3, we shall have a serious crisis not only as a nation but
>as family in the form of distributed love.  The fewer children one has the
>more chances of living longer and having genuine love to the siblings. 
>Studies show that most mothers with very many children hadly remember the
>names of their children.  In most cases they attempt to call one Jo..,
>Sa... Ma... but end up asking who is there. Hopefully, this explains:
>
>http://www.google.com/publicdata/home
>
>Regards
>
>
>Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
>
>> Re radical ideas and kids.
>>
>> Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child,
>> Ushahidi was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the
>> organization behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3
>> after recently joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new
>> ideas
>> there :-)
>>
>>
>> Ory
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:47 AM,
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000
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>>> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
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>>> 15th
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>>> Regards
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>>> confirmed, will attend
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj at surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
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>>> >
>>> > Suraj Shah
>>> > Corporate Affairs Manager
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
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>>> >> Listers,
>>> >> The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena
>>> on
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300
>>> From: "Rad!" <conradakunga at gmail.com>
>>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India
>>>        on IT
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>>>
>>> I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do  with
>>> creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of
>>> the
>>> iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook
>>> Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem
>>> to
>>> have slowed him down any.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi
>>> > The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then
>>> identify
>>> a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of
>>> it
>>> not the money.
>>> > Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the
>>> fun
>>> and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and  money then
>>> followed.
>>> > Regards
>>> > PS.  I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your
>>> ability
>>> to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along
>>> forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application
>>> or
>>> business concept.  If the idea was not incubated when you where in high
>>> school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other
>>> train
>>> has left.
>>> >
>>> > Robert Yawe
>>> > KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> > Kenya
>>> >
>>> > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com>
>>> > To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> > Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18
>>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India
>>> on
>>> IT
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> This will give you an insight into how we can  go from being a talk
>>> shop
>>> and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
>>> >> Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows
>>> great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in
>>> one
>>> of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
>>> >
>>> > What's the first step?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > With Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Phares Kariuki
>>> >
>>> > | T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki at gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro |
>>> Skype:
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>>> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:49:28 +0300
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>>> To: bitange at jambo.co.ke
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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>>> I would like to attend...please let the one involved in organizing
>>> confirm
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:00 AM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Listers,
>>> > The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena
>>> on
>>> > the 16th morning starting at the 7am.  The sponsor has graciously
>>> accepted
>>> > to have at list 10 of  you.
>>> >
>>> > Please let us have confirmations on the list.  They will respond to
>>> you
>>> > directly.  I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
>>> >
>>> > Ndemo.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> > Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46
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>>> > Reply-To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
>>> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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>>> on
>>> IT
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