[kictanet] Open Data - Where does it sit?

Thu Jul 14 11:07:56 EAT 2011

Hi,

This is quite a major step made, a first for Africa and unheard of in many
places worldwide, so first congratulations!

I'm curious about whether the actual raw data will (at some point) be
available for analysis offline. I could be wrong but I haven't been able to
get it. I know the world bank website has tons of raw(ish) data downloadable
as well.

I think there was also mention of having such data available via mobile. I
guess this is one of those areas where developers should get cracking (if
not already) and get some mobile apps out there.

More comments as I sift through what's available (thinking - the half full
glass).
--
Josiah Mugambi

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Paul Kukubo <pkukubo at ict.go.ke> wrote:

> Thank you or your email and your request.
>
> Indeed we don't have transport Data yet and I shall take this up as it
> has come up a few If you go onto thewebsite you will see that there is
> a page where we ask for data suggestions and there is a long list.
>
> I shall confirm to you what the status is on this later. PS Ndemo has
> been working with other permanent secretaries to champion the issue of
> availing data to the public. There are are very many data sets that
> people have written to request for and this is an on-going process.
>
> Paul Kukubo
> CEO Kenya ICT Board
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2011, James Muendo <timrick at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Paul,
> > You asked what data is missing? We haven't been able to access data that
> is in regards to the transport sector. Is it possible to have it? Am trying
> to put together an application that needs me to get the data/statistics
> in-order to have a concrete application. Any help?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > On 13 July 2011 20:12, Paul Kukubo <pkukubo at ict.go.ke> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I would like to shift the discussion if I may to what people can do
> > with the data? What data is missing? how citizens are using it. What
> > possible value additions we can have?
> >
> > Socrata.com is an online hosted service that enables data to be
> > visualized to enable graphs and charts and data comparisons with ease.
> > This visualization is what gives meaning to the data in a way that the
> > common citizens can view it. The benefits of doing this quickly for
> > launch and citizen access far outweigh the cost of waiting for the
> > time it would have taken for us to develop a similar online
> > application locally. One the same website we have published the same
> > lists of data in their original formats.
> >
> > Indeed we have spoken to many software developers who have suggested
> > that they can replicate this The data is there for anyone to replicate
> > it on any website. What we have indicated to software developers is to
> > take the plunge into imagining solutions that are based on have access
> > to that data.  This is where the greatest value is.
> >
> > The issue of local hosting has our attention and we will resolve it,
> > not just with a local data centre, that is not the limitation, but the
> > replication of a similar online tool to visualize the data.
> >
> > This campaign has to be about the benefits of open data. Knowledge,
> > empowerment, commerce entrepreneurship, citizen participation. By
> > crusading for, lobbying and obtaining data that was previously only in
> > thick books, PS Dr Ndemo has broken ground for us. By launching this
> > HE President Kibaki has demonstrated Kenya's commitment to citizen
> > access.
> >
> > Once the entrepreneurs developers have a system that can replicate or
> > even improve or add value to Socrata, or even improve on Socrata and
> > Google's public data tools, the hosting decisions will be easy. As an
> > implementing agency, we are committed to working with all to make this
> > happen. There is much to be done.
> >
> > Thank you to those who have emailed us with specific suggestions of
> > encouragement and improvements to this process. The journey has just
> > began.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > Paul Kukubo
> > CEO Kenya ICT Board
> > Tweeter: @pkukubo
> >
> > On 13 Jul 2011, at 17:04, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> This is indeed a healthy discussion which I really appreciate.
> >> However, as a layman, just as someone pointed out, what exactly is a
> >> (open) data centre? And how does it differ to what NBK, KPLC(?),
> >> Equity bank have?
> >> Where the Kenya Govt Open Data is, sets a curios question: doesn't the
> >> govt have plans to have it located locally? And if there are
> >> challenged reeling, can't it be brought to the fore, so that we may
> >> put our heads together and brainstorm?
> >> The idea of some sections of the government classifying information
> >> does not go well since the government is nopt an exclusive members
> >> club.
> >> If by what has been said, of Paul Kukubo 'sitting' on some resources,
> >> then it would be prudent to look at the matter in a sober manner and
> >> see how they can be put into good use.
> >> And, if there are no plans for Kenya to have the data centres locally
> >> based for the next three years, then why are we talking of Konza
> >> (Malili) ICT City, which would be a perfect place for piloting this
> >> DC?
> >> A lot of deliberation needs to be made, to realize the establishment
> >> of our own DC here.
> >>
> >> My 2 cents.
> >>
> >> On 13/07/2011, Michuki Mwangi <michuki.mwangi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi Robert,
> >>>
> >>> On 7/13/11 3:31 PM, robert yawe wrote:
> >>>> Hi Michuki,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for the information, please give us the following missing
> >>>> information.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) An Operators license from CCK - ISP, Mobile, etc
> >>>>
> >>>> I will follow up on the license requirements from CCK but out of
> >>>> curiosity what license do UNON, KRA & NBK have
> >>>> (
> http://www.tespok.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77&Itemid=92
> >>>> <
> http://www.tespok.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77&Itemid=92
> >)
> >>>> just
> >>>> to get a better understanding of the entire process?<--
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