[kictanet] Open Data - Where does it sit?

[lordmwesh]

to quote Conrad "This is why I am saying i have no problem hosting abroad
 until local providers get their act together and can have reasonable prices
 and services."

We should not hit ourselves too much. It will take decades
 to reach the level of SAVVIS, Softlayer, Amazon, Rackspace, et al. in
providing affordable
 solutions. It has been discussed on this list time and time again the
 problems we face in Kenya and other developing countries.

1. Energy: - How can we compete with countries using nuclear power
while our hydo
 power is not enough to light all our bulbs?
2. Even if we amalgamated all our locally hosted content to one datacenter
 half the size of the Amazon's cloud, would the businessman achieve
ROI? Would we
achieve prices close to those in USA?
3. Do we have enough and competent human resource capacity to maintain the
 infrastructure, code, and implement world class hosting companies?
4. Are our innovations and R&D capable to make us remain competitive even
 when business dynamics shift?

At another forum, Google's Mucheru was asked why they are not setting
servers in Kenya! His answer was "The bottom line is Return on investment"

Regards
Mwendwa



On 11/07/2011, Ali Hussein <info at alyhussein.com> wrote:
> Lucy
>
> All I can say is - We live in a Global Village.
>
> I honestly believe that this is a wake-up call for Local Service Providers.
> However in defence of them the investment required to set up and run a
> Rackspace calibre service is huge...but so are the returns... So my question
> to us in the private sector is who will step up? Or should we wait for the
> Min of Info-comm to lead the way like they did with the undersea cable?
>
> Do I hear KDN; Wananchi; Safaricom; Airtel; Orange et al pick up the
> gauntlet?
>
> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lucy Kimani <lkimani at yahoo.com>
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:28:47
> To: info at alyhussein.com<info at alyhussein.com>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Open Data - Where does it sit?
>
> All I will one up on Francis and Ali why wouldn't a Google for example not
> have dedicated IDCs built in Kenya considering said centers could then serve
> east africa and yes it does matter where the data is hosted legally if such
> data were to be subpoenaed for whatever reason then if hosted in US they
> would have to be produced hence implications of jurisdiction matter in that
> the datacenter is located within US jurisdiction and must therefore abide by
> the laws.
>
> LK
>
> On Jul 11, 2011, at 9:57 AM, "Ali Hussein" <info at alyhussein.com> wrote:
>
>> My two cowries (to quote Francis :) ) :-
>>
>> Why not mirror the service locally? That way we get the best of two
>> worlds...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lordmwesh <lordmwesh at gmail.com>
>> Sender: kictanet-bounces+info=alyhussein.com at lists.kictanet.or.keDate:
>> Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:24:16
>> To: <info at alyhussein.com>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Open Data - Where does it sit?
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