[kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants

Thu Jan 13 20:11:35 EAT 2011

Eugene.

Point taken. Lakini they are usually on facebook, twitter etc etc.

:)

On 1/13/11, Eugene Lidede (Synergy) <eugene at synergy.co.ke> wrote:
> Agosta,
>
>> All people are invited .... Some people make time, some don't. I don't
>> see how the ICT Board should take the blame for that.
>
>> If the donkey cannot come to the river .... :)
>
> I have never received any of these invites sent to *All people*, seems I am
> *literally* a donkey, Oh God!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kictanet-bounces+eugene=synergy.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eugene=synergy.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
> Behalf Of Agosta Liko
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 6:02 PM
> To: Eugene Lidede
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants
>
> Crystal.
>
> All people are invited .... Some people make time, some don't. I don't
> see how the ICT Board should take the blame for that.
>
> If the donkey cannot come to the river .... :)
>
> On 1/13/11, Crystal Watley Kigoni <crystal at voicesofafrica.org> wrote:
>> Just one small issue with the "meetings" in Nairobi with particular
> emphasis
>> on those organized by the ICT Board. We need to ensure that the youth KNOW
>> when the meetings are and who will be there. Many events are organized and
>> the same youth are invited over and over again. It becomes a very elitist
>> undertaking. Is there some way to better publicize the ongoings of such
>> organizations to encourage increased participation?
>>
>> Crystal
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> A great African scholar, Prof Mammo Muchie, recently said..to transform
>>> Africa.we need leaders who "hate money"!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Your point very well taken!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Edith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:
>>> kictanet-bounces+eadera <kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.or.ke@
>>> lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *robert yawe
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:21 AM
>>> *To:* Edith Adera
>>>
>>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe we are missing a critical point and since the PS said "we need
>>> to
>>> be honest to one another", our so called great developers want the fame
> of
>>> Zuckerberg
>>> without the sweat and I request you all watch the movie Social Network to
>>> better appreciate what it took to create facebook.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To make any major breakthrough you first and foremost need the heart and
>>> enthusiasm for what you are doing and not just the vision of the expected
>>> financial gain.  When Ronaldinho was horning his soccer skills on the
>>> streets of *Porto Alegre **he was not thinking of the billions he will
>>> earn when he becomes a star he played for the passion of the sport.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Safaricom is not a charitable organisation and if you actual develop,
> not
>>> imagine, a radically industry shifting product like MPesa or facebook
> then
>>> not only Safaricom but the other players in the industry will beat a path
>>> to
>>> your doorstep but so long as you put the money before the product then we
>>> might as well forget about development.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *I have a live example of 2 law students who spent countless hours with
> no
>>> return to develop what is now the leading electronic version of the laws
>>> of
>>> Kenya.  When they came to me what they needed was computers, office space
>>> and web access, they already had the passion and energy which is
> something
>>> that money can not buy.  *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For the icing on the cake, there is another developer who currently runs
>>> the site www.live.mystocks.co.ke which is the leading stock market
>>> information portal developed the initial site www.mystocks.co.ke from the
>>> challenge from me that there where no good developers just programmers in
>>> Kenya.  Well he proved me wrong without hin raising the issues of money,
>>> partnership, legal environment, government support or standing on giants
>>> shoulders. With the way this product is going any serious service
> provider
>>> will soon be blazing a bath to the door.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Let us live up to our peculiar ways and stop textbook approaches to a
>>> never before experienced problem, so before you stand on the shoulders of
>>> the giant make sure that are aware of your presence there cause one wrong
>>> move by the giant and all will be over.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Regards*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>>> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> *Sent:* Wed, 12 January, 2011 19:34:03
>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re: Standing on the shoulders of
>>> giants
>>>
>>> The problem is not having a framework.  Watch Social Network, how
>>> Zuckerberg created facebook.  On his own, he could not have gone far.  We
>>> need to work in teams providing different capabilities and simply be
>>> honest
>>> to one another.  We cannot succeed if our consideration for capabilities
>>> is
>>> where you come from.  We mus subordinate our individual interest and
> pride
>>> for the greater benefits that change society.
>>>
>>> Ndemo.
>>>
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>> Executive Director
>> Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development
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