[kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants

Thu Jan 13 18:36:46 EAT 2011

It would be nice to see it publicly advertised. That would allow for people
from other parts of the country to come. To be honest, I have not been aware
of the last two meetings. I would have made time or would have asked someone
from our team to go. I think there are hidden pockets of talent that would
participate more if it was more widely present in the media or through the
common mailing lists or something. I would like to see more new faces... :)

Crystal

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Crystal.
>
> All people are invited .... Some people make time, some don't. I don't
> see how the ICT Board should take the blame for that.
>
> If the donkey cannot come to the river .... :)
>
> On 1/13/11, Crystal Watley Kigoni <crystal at voicesofafrica.org> wrote:
> > Just one small issue with the "meetings" in Nairobi with particular
> emphasis
> > on those organized by the ICT Board. We need to ensure that the youth
> KNOW
> > when the meetings are and who will be there. Many events are organized
> and
> > the same youth are invited over and over again. It becomes a very elitist
> > undertaking. Is there some way to better publicize the ongoings of such
> > organizations to encourage increased participation?
> >
> > Crystal
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke> wrote:
> >
> >> A great African scholar, Prof Mammo Muchie, recently said….to transform
> >> Africa…we need leaders who “hate money”!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Your point very well taken!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Edith
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto:
> >> kictanet-bounces+eadera <kictanet-bounces%2Beadera>=idrc.or.ke@
> >> lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *robert yawe
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:21 AM
> >> *To:* Edith Adera
> >>
> >> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I believe we are missing a critical point and since the PS said "we need
> >> to
> >> be honest to one another", our so called great developers want the fame
> of
> >> Zuckerberg
> >> without the sweat and I request you all watch the movie Social Network
> to
> >> better appreciate what it took to create facebook.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To make any major breakthrough you first and foremost need the heart and
> >> enthusiasm for what you are doing and not just the vision of the
> expected
> >> financial gain.  When Ronaldinho was horning his soccer skills on the
> >> streets of *Porto Alegre **he was not thinking of the billions he will
> >> earn when he becomes a star he played for the passion of the sport.*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Safaricom is not a charitable organisation and if you actual develop,
> not
> >> imagine, a radically industry shifting product like MPesa or facebook
> then
> >> not only Safaricom but the other players in the industry will beat a
> path
> >> to
> >> your doorstep but so long as you put the money before the product then
> we
> >> might as well forget about development.*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *I have a live example of 2 law students who spent countless hours with
> no
> >> return to develop what is now the leading electronic version of the laws
> >> of
> >> Kenya.  When they came to me what they needed was computers, office
> space
> >> and web access, they already had the passion and energy which is
> something
> >> that money can not buy.  *
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> For the icing on the cake, there is another developer who currently runs
> >> the site www.live.mystocks.co.ke which is the leading stock market
> >> information portal developed the initial site www.mystocks.co.ke from
> the
> >> challenge from me that there where no good developers just programmers
> in
> >> Kenya.  Well he proved me wrong without hin raising the issues of money,
> >> partnership, legal environment, government support or standing on giants
> >> shoulders. With the way this product is going any serious service
> provider
> >> will soon be blazing a bath to the door.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Let us live up to our peculiar ways and stop textbook approaches to a
> >> never before experienced problem, so before you stand on the shoulders
> of
> >> the giant make sure that are aware of your presence there cause one
> wrong
> >> move by the giant and all will be over.*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Regards*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert Yawe
> >> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> >> Kenya
> >>
> >> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From:* "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> >> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> >> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >> *Sent:* Wed, 12 January, 2011 19:34:03
> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re: Standing on the shoulders of
> >> giants
> >>
> >> The problem is not having a framework.  Watch Social Network, how
> >> Zuckerberg created facebook.  On his own, he could not have gone far.
>  We
> >> need to work in teams providing different capabilities and simply be
> >> honest
> >> to one another.  We cannot succeed if our consideration for capabilities
> >> is
> >> where you come from.  We mus subordinate our individual interest and
> pride
> >> for the greater benefits that change society.
> >>
> >> Ndemo.
> >>
> >> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
> >> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:53:16
> >> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >> Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [kictanet] Standing on the shoulders of giants
> >>
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> > --
> > Crystal "Naliaka" Watley Kigoni
> > Executive Director
> > Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development
> > crystal at voicesofafrica.org
> > http://www.voicesofafrica.org/
> >
> > Intersat Africa, Ltd
> > Rural Internet Kiosks
> > Project Coordinator
> > crystal.kigoni at intersat.ae
> >
> > Twitter: VOA_Crystal
> > Skype: crystal.naliaka
> > Facebook group: Voices of Africa
> >
> > "You must be the change you wish to see" - Gandhi
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
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-- 
Crystal "Naliaka" Watley Kigoni
Executive Director
Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development
crystal at voicesofafrica.org
http://www.voicesofafrica.org/

Intersat Africa, Ltd
Rural Internet Kiosks
Project Coordinator
crystal.kigoni at intersat.ae

Twitter: VOA_Crystal
Skype: crystal.naliaka
Facebook group: Voices of Africa

"You must be the change you wish to see" - Gandhi
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