[kictanet] Robert Yawe for PMG Integrity test

Wed Dec 21 17:21:39 EAT 2011

Thats what they say about Degrees ... they add ooomf .. they just light up
the room

but when push comes to shove, they mean little

at least in software development ...

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)
<nmutungu at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think education has value, even though sometimes we may not realise it.
> Yesterday I was just discussing with a colleague about the difference
> between UoN graduates and others at my place of work. I have come to
> observe that UoN graduates, seem to have some added, untouchable value
> (call it ooomf) and they are heading most teams. And I think this is due to
> the whole experience of being in that University while pursuing a degree.
> So, there are still places where people are acquiring holistic education
> and this makes quite a difference at work.
> Of course this is not to belittle those who have not acquired degrees,
> circumstances are different.
>
> 2011/12/21 Philip Adar <philip.adar at gmail.com>
>
>> If this week is for vision 2030, and the same vision envisage some
>> transformation to our education system (including university education),
>> then how comes university degree's are now just pieces of paper which you
>> go for just because you can get it?
>>
>> If you have some knowledge (without any degree), then you don't look for
>> the any position where they require a degree. Use the knowledge at your
>> disposal to start something and run it efficiently so that those with
>> degrees find it necessary to come work for you. Bill Gates doesn't have a
>> degree alright, but there are thousands of degree holders who the "real
>> programmers" at Microsoft!
>>
>> Regards
>> Adar
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> --- On *Wed, 12/21/11, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Robert Yawe for PMG Integrity test
>>> To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Wednesday, December 21, 2011, 10:13 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 09:44, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> --- On *Wed, 12/21/11, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
>>> >* wrote:
>>> I am not trying in any way to belittle the need for university
>>> education, it is essential for a younger person but at 45 years of age it
>>> will be a waste of valuable time and resources
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Yawe,
>>>
>>> Dont try to ran away from a degree bwana!  I know a Kenyan colleague who
>>> got a degree at 65yrs of age.  Not because they were looking for a job, but
>>> just because they could (had the opportunity, the brain and resources to do
>>> it).  I strongly believe you have the opportunity, the brain and the
>>> resources to get that degree - just because you can.
>>>
>>>
>>> @Walu,
>>>
>>> For once, I have completely failed to understand the type of
>>> justification you have used to try and convice Bobby to get a degree.
>>> With this particular reasoning, wasn't this degree as a good as a paper
>>> for the water closet?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>>> Nairobi,KE
>>> +254733744121/+254722743223
>>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>  @Wash,
>>>
>>> Dont try to understand the reason - because there is none ;-)
>>>
>>> People like Yawe do not actually need a degree nor a reason to do it.
>>> Mostly they simply do the degree because they can.  Much like Bill Gates or
>>> Manu Chandaria donate money for various causes because they can..donating
>>> the money or retaining it does not change their status; but eventually they
>>> prefer to donate, its  probably just part of self-actualization.
>>>
>>> But lets not dwell on Yawe - I think this week is about V2030...
>>>
>>> walu.
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Philip Adar
>>
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