[kictanet] Bitange for President? Reality

Fri Aug 19 20:07:04 EAT 2011

Great analogy Robert

On 18 August 2011 13:52, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>  Hi Michael,
>
> Just a quick enjoinder, "kinyeji" chicken is tastier than the broiler but
> it takes too long to grow, our traditional grains are greater nutritional
> value than GM or the hybrids but they have a low yield and are
> highly susceptible to illness.
>
> Typing a letter with a typewriter (manual) strengthens your fingers, does
> not produce green house gases and can work even when their is no
> electricity.  What would you do if you got a new job and they expected you
> to type your repeats on old faithful?
>
> Because of the broiler and the GM maize you and I less likely to suffer
> from starvation, the fellows in Turkana like you and your traditional fish
> preferred to keep their traditional cows.
>
> With time even you will acquire a test for the farmed fish as the
> alternative will be managu and ugali.
>
> Go Kamau Go.
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Michael Ouma <benomnta at yahoo.com>
> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> *Cc:* Kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Wed, 17 August, 2011 14:58:52
>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Reality
>
> Just to react to this bit here, that "Data collected from the development
> of fish farming in Central Province County is that they will be the
> largest producers of fish by the year 2015 at which time the tri-citizenship
> fish in Lake Victory will either have been exhausted or the lake will have
> died from pollution. Then bwana president how will you deal with the issue
> of no fish in lake victoria come 2015, or shall we wait for famine and
> malnutrition to fester in the region so that we can then cry on national TV
> and hope it will resolve the issue?"
>
> Here's something I've found online, and which can be confirmed or refuted,
> depending on where one stands: "It has to be; fish from the lake is much
> tastier than fish from the farms/ponds. I guess the lake ones are exposed to
> a variety of foodstuffs and nutrients that a fish farmer cannot provide.
> plus the space within the lake is much larger, making them swim more and
> grow healthier (and heavier). This is just a hypothesis; on the taste though
> l am sure. You can straight away tell the difference. Nearest comparison l
> can think of is like kienyeji chicken vis-a-vis broilers!"
>
> So whatever the size of acres being put under fish farming/ponds in other
> parts of the country, the fish resource in Lake Victoria is still crucial
> and it's importance to the area's and region's economy can't possibly be
> downplayed...
>
>
> Michael Ouma
> Journalist
> Kenya
> Tel:+254-725-537823
>
>
>
> "Do not go where the path may lead, but go instead where there is no path
> and leave a trail," - Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> *To:* benomnta at yahoo.com
> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Reality
>
> Hi Grace,
>
> KBF is a term given to us by our wise and insightful current President that
> in full is "KuBaFu"
>
> Definition has given by the other old wise man, Hon. Michuki
> Kubafu ni mtu ambaye anajua kile anahitajiwa kufanya lakini anakataa
>  A Kubafu is one who knows what they need or are supposed to do but refuse
> to do so
>
> This definition has been given previously in this forum but as we are
> unable to put content on the web in a searchable format which is why you
> could not get it when you searched on Google.
>
> Regards
>
> Coast Politician: Rais sisi watu wa pwani tuko nyuma yako
>  President Kenyatta:  Laa, sitaki watu nyuma yangu, nataka tusonge mbele
> bega kwa bega
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> *Sent:* Wed, 17 August, 2011 10:51:45
> *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Reality
>
>  Yawe
> What is a KBF?
>
> Rgds
> GG
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is
> all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth
> and rule the World!
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:03:18 +0100
> From: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Reality
> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
>
>  Hi Daktari,
>
> Unless you are the first born in your mothers home then you and I started
> the 100 meter race 100 meters before the starting point but yet you will
> find that you must have overtaken those who started before you for a number
> of reasons some of which are;
>
> 1.  Their position was not by their own efforts but a matter of chance and
> they are used to being pushed, those behind have a tendency to be self
> propelled
> 2.  Late starters have the opportunity to learn from the mistakes of those
> ahead, unless one is a KBF
> 3.  The trail blazers flatten the grass allowing those behind to make
> faster progress
> 4.  While your elder siblings might have walked 5 kilometres to school you
> most like only walked 3 kilometres because they carried you the last 2.
>
> There are many benefits to lagging into new territories which is why in our
> implementation of the technology cities and parks we needs to be better than
> those of Egypt, India and South Africa unfortunately we seem to have the
> "also ran" mentality instead of applying the principle of best practice and
> innovation.
>
> On the Konza design I mentioned to you that one of the biggest issues that
> Silicon Valley suffers today is excessive tarmac which leads to too much
> motorised traffic which apart from causing traffics produces a lot of lead
> which affects the brain and by extension the ability to be creative.  Even
> with the benefit of hind site Konza's designers refuse to learn from those
> who went before.
>
> As the face and engine of this monumental project that the president will
> be breaking ground to in September are you doing to incorporate best
> practices from within and elsewhere?
>
> On the issue of fish in the lake we need to realise that the dependence on
> faith and heavenly intervention to feed us must come to a sudden and abrupt
> end.  You either feed the fish or go hungry, we need to stop thinking like
> hunters and gatherers and take responsibility for our food security .
>
> My maternal grandfather was one of the first people to dig a bore hole in
> the district sometime in the late 60's and was, like I have been, laughed
> off as the village madman it is only today that the neighbours appreciate
> what he did.  In those days there was no need to dig a bore hole because the
> rains where predictable, the rivers where clean and accessible, the
> population was small and the walk to the river was short.
>
> A number of years later the short route to the river was grabbed as is
> traditional and those who had no direct river access like my grand parents
> neighbours had to walk a longer distance.  The bore hole spared my
> grandmother the long walk but unfortunately also made my mothers siblings
> lazy.
>
> I leave you to decide what the moral of the story is, might just have been
> a chance for me to brag about my intelligent grand father or was it?
>
> Data collected from the development of fish farming in Central Province
> County is that they will be the largest producers of fish by the year 2015
> at which time the tri-citizenship fish in Lake Victory will either have been
> exhausted or the lake will have died from pollution.
>
> Then bwana president how will you deal with the issue of no fish in lake
> victoria come 2015, or shall we wait for famine and malnutrition to fester
> in the region so that we can then cry on national TV and hope it will
> resolve the issue?
>
> In closing, since the discussion has been extended would you rather we
> continue with this discussion on the same threat or spin it off seperately?
>  I prefer a separate threat has it gives me an opportunity to see how many
> discussions you can keep on the front banner.
>
> Regards
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> *Sent:* Tue, 16 August, 2011 21:10:27
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Xenophobia
>
> Harry,
> Examine Robert's logic through his metaphor of how long a cow takes to die
> out of hunger.  If he meant that we should have seen it coming then he is a
> master of contradiction.
>
> What is happening around Lake Victoria must be stopped.  If indeed this
> were businessmen, then they need not spend money to silencing politicians.
> Infact some politicians speak like Robert.  "Our people are lazy".  This is
> a grave matter.  We cannot fight poverty by telling our people to compete in
> a 200 meter race when the vistors are starting at 100 meter spot (Capital
> unlimited) and we cannot vouch on the sources of their immense financial
> strength.
>
> The impact of excess liquidity in the market affects everyone through
> inflation and inflated property prices as well as rent.  You do not need an
> economist to tell you this.
>
> I do not blame Robert's puritanical reaction.  This is typical of us when
> we fail to look at a global picture.  If it wasn't the fact that the
> official "campaign" is over I would have spent more time on the economic
> implications of the issue at hand.
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Harry Delano" <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>
> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:22:21
> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> Reply-To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> Cc: <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Xenophobia
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