[kictanet] Bitange for President? Xenophobia

Wed Aug 17 08:57:28 EAT 2011

Well said Sam

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Sam Aguyo <saguyo at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>  From what i was taught and is true, an entrepreneur creates an institution
> and a businessman looks for money. An institution takes care of the several
> stakeholders in the ecosystem, but a businessman does not have any
> stakeholder.  He/she can create something today get the money and leave
> tomorrow.
>
> - Why are there no Tilapia in Lake Victoria from where I come from?
>
> I am not a marine expert but i have gone out fishing on a number of
> occasions, i understand the ecosystem.  We have the fishing gear for
> catching all types of fish in a sustainable manner, when one uses a wrong
> gear it interferes with the ecosystem.  All fish will be caught young, old
> and the eggs laid.  In short you will not have Tilapia and all other fish.
> The businessman does not care to return to the water the young fish and the
> eggs.
>
> The businessmen in the lake have introduced a lot of dynamics that needs to
> be brought out, today it is the fish when that is depleted the businessmen
> will go for something else.
>
> Sam
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Michael Ouma <benomnta at yahoo.com>
> *To:* saguyo at yahoo.com
> *Cc:* Kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:41 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Xenophobia
>
> Dr Ndemo et al:
>
> This is a discussion that needs to continue.  And being part of the media,
> which this list has of late tended to disparage, I need two clarifications:
>
> - Why are there no Tilapia in Lake Victoria from where I come from?
>
> - Like Dr Ndemo has said in this post, are the Somali businessmen or
> "investors" silensing local  politicians and what's the eveidence?
>
> Please let the experts in matters fisheries or marine come out and clear
> the air.
>
> Michael Ouma
> Journalist
> Kenya
> Tel:+254-725-537823
>
>
>
> "Do not go where the path may lead, but go instead where there is no path
> and leave a trail," - Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> *To:* benomnta at yahoo.com
> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:10 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Xenophobia
>
> Harry,
> Examine Robert's logic through his metaphor of how long a cow takes to die
> out of hunger.  If he meant that we should have seen it coming then he is a
> master of contradiction.
>
> What is happening around Lake Victoria must be stopped.  If indeed this
> were businessmen, then they need not spend money to silencing politicians.
> Infact some politicians speak like Robert.  "Our people are lazy".  This is
> a grave matter.  We cannot fight poverty by telling our people to compete in
> a 200 meter race when the vistors are starting at 100 meter spot (Capital
> unlimited) and we cannot vouch on the sources of their immense financial
> strength.
>
> The impact of excess liquidity in the market affects everyone through
> inflation and inflated property prices as well as rent.  You do not need an
> economist to tell you this.
>
> I do not blame Robert's puritanical reaction.  This is typical of us when
> we fail to look at a global picture.  If it wasn't the fact that the
> official "campaign" is over I would have spent more time on the economic
> implications of the issue at hand.
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
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