[kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public Demand-internet price?

[S.Murigi Muraya]

To build dams.. e.g. Sasumua Dam.. the British.. used Mau Mau prisoners.
Were we better off with colonialism? A vice that demoralized its subjects,
which forbid Africans in Kenya from growing cash crops?

http://www.superstock.com/stock-photos-images/1899-25312

2. About money laundering / proceeds of crime..

Why is the "Proceeds of Crime &  Anti Money Laundering Act 2009" not yet
operationalized?

http://allafrica.com/stories/200912290943.html

http://www.transparency.org/news_room/latest_news/press_releases_nc/2011/2011_06_03_tikenya_operationalise_act_now





On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:35 PM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:

> William,
> Today after a game of Tennis, I decided to hang out in the sauna for a
> while.  I was delighted to see a colleague from University of Nairobi and
> a prominent professor of Biochemistry.  There were other three club
> members.  The professor narrated how for the first time in his life time
> while in Kisumu he had to settle for cat fish and ugali for his lunch on
> Saturday.   There is no Tilapia he said.  An Asian businessman originally
> from Kisumu who sat next to me indeed confirmed that all the fish business
> is the hands of Somali community which seems to have struck some gold mine
> in fish.  He said noted “real estateb in all major towns is now in their
> hands too”.
>
> The talk drifted into what such enormous resource could do to the country
> if the resource were to be used to buy our gullible politicians.  You
> could sense the helplessness in the small steamy cubicle.  Although others
> felt that there was a plan being executed by one community to dominate the
> economy in all major towns of Kenya, I had to warn them that such talk can
> be dangerous and amount to discrimination against another community.  I
> bring these discussions here because there are murmurs all over on the
> Somali Community spending on property without clear sources of the funds.
> Until we discuss this matter with open mind, it is disaster we are
> courting.
>
> We are indeed faced with very difficult decisions in this country.  There
> is need to get to the bottom of this matter since we know it will be a
> problem in future if we do not address it now.  A large number of Somali
> have migrated to Kenya.  In other countries such an influx is monitored
> closely even when there is no threat to state security.  I remember in
> 1983 the Kenyan community in Minnesota numbered about fifteen.  By 1987,
> the community had grown to about 1,000 and eating a lot of corn meal to
> the extent that it became a major story in US media.  Local ABC news
> reported new immigrant community that has wiped out all the corn meal in
> the Twin Cities area.  We have no account of the characteristics of our
> new immigrants.
>
>
> This is where ICTs begins to help us manage the development of our people.
>  At every entry, we must take electronic finger prints of every person
> getting into the country.  We must also get a tamper prove ID.  This can
> be done along the lines of the Public Key Infrastructure.  We must begin
> to release land registration records on to the open data platform.  This
> will indeed help trace ill gotten properties that in many ways compromise
> the ability of local people in affording such properties.
>
> Good leadership is a product of informed citizens and embracing a
> participatory approach.  This is how we can move forward together.
>
> Keep hope alive.  One Kenya.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Ndemo
>
>
>
>
> > Daktari,
> >
> >
> > Your story about the trip, environment and lack of planning is truly
> > reflective of the sad situation we find ourselves in. There is also the
> > nostalgia you and the pilot shared over the desecration of the
> > environment. Thanks for jogging memories on certain key facts about the
> > changing environmental conditions.
> >
> > Janak
> >
> > --- On Sat, 8/13/11, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> >
> > From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public
> > Demand-internet price?
> > To: williamjanak at yahoo.com
> > Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 4:57 PM
> >
> > Walubengo,
> > You can dig for your answer in my write up below.
> >
> > This week I had an opportunity to fly to Laikipia for a lunch meeting
> with
> > investors who wanted to kill two birds with one stone by having a Safari
> > and discuss business at the same time.  They paid the bill.  The one
> > hour
> > flight to and from Laikipia got my head spinning.  The pilot has been
> > flying here for more than thirty years and has seen many physical changes
> > in Central, Eastern and Rift Valley.  I pestered him with many
> questions.
> >
> > At some point he told me that all the rivers that flow through Central
> > Kenya had crystal clear water in the 7o's and 80's but as farmers
> > encroached on riparian land, soil erosion crept in and now they are all
> > red dragging the best of soils into the Indian Ocean.  In spite of
> > several
> > Departments of Geography in our Universities there are little or no
> > studies on the long term effects of what is happening to our ecosystem.
> > We study both human and physical geography not to apply the knowledge but
> > as a means to get papers for employment.
> >
> > A quick research will tell you that we are not only food insecure but
> also
> > water insecure.   Although Kenya’s water per capita in cubic meters
> > at 647
> > is above world average 360, we do not compare well with other progressive
> > countries such as India at 1,911 and China at 2,840.  We were better at
> > independence since we had many dams built by the British but are now
> > non-existent.  People planted Ndumas in most of the dams.  We must now
> > admit we did not know the impact and still we do not know until our
> > academics get down to work on research.
> >
> > Soil erosion means we are also eroding the most arable land in the
> > country.  Per capita arable land in Kenya measures only .14 hectare per
> > person.  Here we fall below the world average of .21 hectare per person.
> > The statistic implies the world must manage this resource better in order
> > to feed everybody.  The British had started this policy on African
> > reserves sort of rural urbanization.  We rightly shunned it but without
> > studies to look into our future.  We must re-introduce this with a
> better
> > name and better housing with all utilities.  My research findings on
> such
> > housing will cost about Ksh. 200,000 per unit of three bedrooms.  In
> > other
> > words we can construct 340,000 households from the Goldenberg loot if we
> > were to recover it.  This will translate to all of Northern Kenya from
> > Kacheliba to Wajir.
> >
> > We have about 6 million households in Kenya of which 3 million can afford
> > to pay for such a house or better.  The Government can indeed manage to
> > build for the remainder through improved tax collections (we pay about
> 40%
> > of the potential income tax and about 20% of the potential local
> authority
> > taxes such as rates).  Of course there will be other savings from health
> > budget that goes into opportunistic diseases that we can eliminate from
> > the face of Kenya.  These include water borne diseases.  Typhoid alone
> > costs Kenya billions that need to be used to improve the livelihood of
> our
> > people and meet the constitutional demands.
> >
> > Therefore, the question on Lake Victoria water will not arise if we
> dammed
> > all the waters that flow into the lake and elsewhere.  As for affordable
> > prices for broadband, I have no doubts that we shall meet this even
> before
> > the end of this year.  The shared infrastructure negotiations are going
> > on
> > smoothly.  In a few weeks time we should move forward with the LTE open
> > access program.  If we all understand the open access principle where
> big
> > and small will use the infrastructure at same access cost.  More agile
> > companies will indeed provide very competitive pricing.  As we move the
> > Government more online, the more the number of internet users meaning we
> > shall reach the critical mass much faster.  With the critical mass and
> > many providers, the price can only go downwards.
> >
> > The biggest problem and one asked by Monda is the question of vested
> > interests.  I know some sectors have a real problem with this issue and
> > negatively impacts on our economic growth.  In our sector we have been
> > lucky in the sense that much of what we do is new and the rapid
> > technological changes discourage power brokers who may entrench
> themselves
> > to build strong vested interest.  This is not to say that we are not
> > often
> > asked to do things differently.  Our savior is going to be open
> > government
> > and in this I pray that every Kenyan understands this concept because it
> > has a way of not only dealing with vested interest but also impunity in a
> > way.  If I had time I could delve into this more.  To date I do not
> > think
> > even media has understood this powerful tool.
> >
> > Back to my flight.  Coming back I found myself humming Jim Reeves’
> song
> > “we thank thee each morning for a new born day ….. we thank thee for
> > the
> > sunshine and air we breathe, for the rivers that run, for the birds that
> > sing, for the eyes to see this things…unfortunately we may not hear the
> > birds sing since from above you can see that we have eliminated their
> > habitat – percent of total land area in Kenya covered by forest is 2%
> > compared to world average of 31%.  We may not see the rivers as they
> were
> > before since all our soils are polluting the what remains of rivers as
> > eucalyptus has swallowed much of the water and wetlands.
> >
> > Hovering over many towns across the land you get hurt by what you see.
> > Although there are planners in all local authorities you see a cry of
> > unplanned structures with visible problems of managing solid waste.  You
> > simply see chaos in a country with literacy levels approaching 90%.Â
> What
> > you see are the sources of many diseases and problems such as the jigger
> > menace in some parts of the country.   I grew up fairly poor but we
> did
> > not have this level of disorganization.  At least health officers did
> > something to prevent many diseases.  I saw dirty butcheries and
> > restaurants closed by health officers.  There was a semblance of planned
> > dukas.  Where the madness of unplanningness came from I do not know but
> > this is one of the things “candidate† Ndemo will deal with.
> >
> > In conclusion, we must make very tough decisions if we want a better
> > future.  I know the new constitution has brought all sorts of rights but
> > it is all nonsense if we undermine the future with unplanned population,
> > unplanned urban centers, unplanned future, etc.   There must be no
> > rights
> > without responsibility.
> >
> >
> > Ndemo.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Bw PS,
> >>
> >> nice insights you have below.  Mine is simply to ask what your
> >> thoughts
> >> are, in terms of making consumer internet prices affordable. Yes, cost
> >> of
> >> bandwidth at international gateway level used to be 5,000USD per MB
> >> (over
> >> satellite) but now it has dropped below  500USD per MB.  Basically
> >> it
> >> has dropped by 10 times - HOWEVER- in our cyber cafes, the cost of
> >> accessing internet is still 1/- to 2/- per minute, pretty much what it
> >> was
> >> during the satellite days.
> >>
> >> Mobile data internet which is the more common form of access is not any
> >> cheaper either.  There's has been NO  drop per-se, just marketing
> >> gimmicks of increasing the amount of bandwidth for the same (HIGH)
> >> price.
> >> It is like saying lunch costs 2,500/= at some 5star hotel, but since
> >> there
> >> has been good rains/harvest, for the same 2,500/= you are free to eat
> >> ALL
> >> you want...sounds good, but ONLY for those who could afford the 2,500/=
> >> lunch bracket in the first place - who unfortunately are not
> >> many....particularly in an economy whose average monthly income is
> >> around
> >> 8,000sh.
> >>
> >> So how do you intend to tackle the internet price problem when you get
> >> to
> >> be President?
> >>
> >> walu.
> >>
> >> --- On Fri, 8/12/11, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public
> >> Demand
> >> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> >> Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >> Date: Friday, August 12, 2011, 9:01 PM
> >>
> >> Harry,
> >> Yes there is a crisis virtually in every country at the moment.  The
> >> difference is how you handle the situation.  In Britain the Prime
> >> Minister
> >> thought he can take a vacation in Italy and forget what is going on at
> >> home but he was forced to dash home.  Before I respond to how we take
> >> care
> >> of our crisis, I felt there is a patriotism lesson that we need to learn
> >> from Britain.
> >>
> >> The first reports we got in our News papers here and even in electronic
> >> media, there was no cause of the crisis in Britain.  It was simply
> >> reported that London is burning.  Some of our best media houses with
> >> so
> >> many journalists forgot to ask questions like what, where, when, why,
> >> etc.
> >>  This would have helped us understand.  This is because the British
> >> Media
> >> (from where our Media got the story) first looks at their
> >> country’s
> >> interests first and everything else is secondary.  Does our Media
> >> have
> >> what they call Kenyan or African interests?  If they did, they would
> >> have
> >> raised issues relating to racism and African Diaspora.  We shall be
> >> more
> >> respected if we had the interest of those in the Diaspora at heart be
> >> they
> >> from Bahamas or Nigeria.
> >>
> >> How do we respond to our crisis?  This should not be a government
> >> project.
> >>Â  The entire society needs a lesson on respecting other human beings
> >> because this where our problems start and will open up greater
> >> opportunity
> >> and sustained harmony for all humanity.  In other countries they make
> >> an
> >> effort to socially integrate all citizens of different economic classes.
> >> Let me elaborate.  In Kenya a good mechanic will never be found
> >> drinking
> >> with a corporate CEO but in other countries it happens and sometimes you
> >> find they are neighbours.  It is not common you find a woman with an
> >> undergraduate degree married to a plumber for example.  We have
> >> defined
> >> classes that we try everything to belong to.  We do not have good
> >> plumbers, mechanics, carpenters etc in this country yet we have thousand
> >> s
> >> looking for white collar jobs.
> >>
> >> I am sure most of you have watched Cheers.  The artists in the bar
> >> are a
> >> postman, a doctor, other professional, bar maids and men having a common
> >> goal.  Where no one thinks or feels they know more than the
> >> other.  This
> >> is the begging of building a harmonious society that no one feels left
> >> out.  The rift we have created just needs a small thing like shooting
> >> a
> >> drug dealer (as in the UK) then hell will break loose.  We must not
> >> forget
> >> that this happened in China in 1949 when the Maoists took over.  They
> >> literary killed anybody who seemed to be from upper class.  Land
> >> reform
> >> was the major focus of policy as a result of China's vast rural
> >> population, around 90% of the population were farmers. Lands of former
> >> landlords were confiscated by the government and subsequently
> >> redistributed to the lower-class peasants.  Do not forget the French
> >> revolution.
> >>
> >> Discrimination in any form should be shunned.  This is because it is
> >> the
> >> basis of all problems be it class or tribalism.    Three of my
> >> close
> >> friends have experience that summarizes what I have tried to
> >> explain.ÂÂ
> >> Mr.
> >> X got six and eighteen points at O and A levels respectively.  At
> >> university he came out with 1st class in Electrical Engineering and
> >> joined
> >> the then EAPL and later obtained an MBA.  Mr. Y had division II and
> >> could
> >> not afford high school but went to Kenya Science Teachers to become a
> >> teacher.  Mr. Z also passed his O levels with Division III and joined
> >> Barclays Bank as a Clerical officer.  They have struggled in their
> >> own
> >> ways and of the four of us Z is the wealthiest.  Any time I am with
> >> X, he
> >> complains why I should even have time for Y and Z.  Y by the way has
> >> struggled for many years and he will soon get his PhD.  According to
> >> X
> >> these are not our class of people.  He loathes Z as one who failed
> >> and
> >> now
> >> possibly has earned his wealth through corrupt means.  In spite of
> >> the
> >> fact that I have tried to ask X to forget the past, he feels he belongs
> >> to
> >> a different class and hangs around some of the “successful�
> >> people.
> >> Although I have never disclosed this to Y and Z their sixth sense leads
> >> them to discriminate X from some events.  At some point we were four
> >> young
> >> lads who enjoyed life together but now pulling a part because of
> >> differences in the way we led our lives after high school.  I hear
> >> and
> >> see
> >> this kind of stories often and make me feel bad about class division in
> >> our country.
> >>
> >> I have had the privilege of deciding who my assistants should be but not
> >> once have I ever picked someone because we spoke the same vernacular
> >> language.  My current office is a living example and after leading by
> >> example, all of my senior officers followed suit.  This is how we
> >> should
> >> begin to tackle the problem of tribalism.  We also must ensure
> >> equitable
> >> distribution of resources and start connecting all the counties with
> >> roads, energy, water, schools and hospitals.  We have already
> >> connected
> >> fibre optics to all the counties and are in the process of covering the
> >> pockets that exist.  Even with difficult times we have managed to
> >> balance
> >> infrastructure development to all parts of the country.  We shall
> >> continue
> >> with similar strategies.
> >>
> >> To achieve my objectives, I take you back to building sustained regional
> >> influence and develop the HUB concept in everything here in Kenya.
> >> Transportation, ICT, Industrialization, and practically everything Hub.
> >> Of course some of our neighbours will feel jealous.   This is
> >> what we
> >> need
> >> in a sustained way because it will help galvanize Kenyans against some
> >> external “aggressor�.  President Museveni used this
> >> effectively to
> >> get
> >> Ugandans behind him when he claimed Migingo as a strategy to get
> >> re-elected.  Let us do good to the entire East Africa by building the
> >> rail
> >> up to Goma, Adis, Juba, Dar and Arusha all terminating in Nairobi.ÂÂ
> >> We
> >> must build major transit and logistics airport and make it cheap to
> >> access
> >> it to all rail destinations.  Develop capacity to serve the entire
> >> world
> >> back offices.   From this we shall create a pull effect on our
> >> agriculture.  Let me not disclose the entire strategy.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >> Ndemo.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Bw Ps,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your articulative responses... Indeed looking at events
> >>> cutting
> >>> across the globe
> >>> now, one wakes up to a realization that we face similar socio-economic
> >>> challenges. Bottom
> >>> line, is how do we respond. And respond we must. But consequently this
> >>> is
> >>> what makes the
> >>> huge difference between moving forward purposefully to achieve progress
> >>> and
> >>> backpeddling on
> >>> the other hand.
> >>>
> >>> We'd also wish to understand what strategies would be put in place to
> >>> ensure
> >>> a balanced
> >>> infrastractural development across the regions. I suppose much of the
> >>> concentration right
> >>> now is around the Capital and it's environs at the expense of the rest
> >>> of
> >>> the country.
> >>> How about dealing with the great tribalism "monster".
> >>>
> >>> 3rdly, what strategies/plans do you have in place to achieve this dream
> >>> you
> >>> have.
> >>>
> >>> Harry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> On
> >>> Behalf Of bitange at jambo.co.ke
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:32 PM
> >>> To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> >>> Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public
> >>> Demand
> >>>
> >>> Grace,
> >>> Thank you for extending the debate to Monday.  I hope I get time to
> >>> articulate some of the issues that will impact our lives in the next
> >>> few
> >>> years.  Earlier I said that we are not alone in how we are dealing
> >>> with
> >>> our
> >>> social development.  I went ahead and gave examples from the US and
> >>> UK.
> >>> Although it is an unfortunate for the British people, it has come to
> >>> pass.
> >>> Even the Central Bank we got some good debate out of my post.
> >>>
> >>> Leadership requires selfless commitment to the people they lead.  It
> >>> is
> >>> a
> >>> sacrifice one makes.  In this respect, I will seek for advisors who
> >>> have
> >>> demonstrated ability to serve their country with dedication.  We
> >>> have
> >>> these
> >>> people but they have never been given a chance to lead. The
> >>> constitution
> >>> has
> >>> accorded us the opportunity to search for such people.
> >>> If you read today's front page Standard, it has the requirement for
> >>> those
> >>> who want to join the electoral commission.  If we follow the
> >>> requirement
> >>> to
> >>> the letter, we shall get credible people.  It is this process that
> >>> lacked
> >>> before and political operatives took charge in many posts within
> >>> government.
> >>>
> >>> Indeed there will be a policy guideline on all organizations registered
> >>> under Societies Act.  It is in the interest of the public that these
> >>> organizations file annual returns to the registrar because they are tax
> >>> exempt.  Tax exemption means that we the public partly fund their
> >>> activities.  Further the state has a responsibility to protect its
> >>> citizens
> >>> from being taken advantage of.  We cannot burry our heads in the
> >>> sand
> >>> on
> >>> this issue no matter how sensitive it is.  We shall also be
> >>> implementing
> >>> our
> >>> constitution with respect to Bill of Rights.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ndemo.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Listers
> >>>>
> >>>> We have received requests  (offline) that we allow "Candidate"
> >>>> Ndemo
> >>>> more time for him to respond to more concerns being raised.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is to let you know that the 'official campaign period" has been
> >>>> extended up to Monday August 15, 2011.
> >>>>
> >>>> And now Dr. Ndemo, Harry Delano did ask you to say what kind of
> >>>> advisors you would be looking for to help shape policy. Can we hear
> >>>> you on this one too? You also make a valid point about churches and
> >>>> the fact that they are not audited. I know for example in Washington
> >>>> DC, Parish priests have to present audited accounts to Parishoners
> >>>> once a year, while the Bishop fundraises through a system that is open
> >>>> to public scrutiny. Would you then make a policy decision on this? On
> >>>> a light note, may I remind you that your responses will go into the
> >>>> 'manifesto' and translate into more or less "votes" :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Listers, let the debate continue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rgds
> >>>> GG
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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