[kictanet] IT posts for go circle

Tue Aug 9 08:48:21 EAT 2011

Hi All,

Thanks for the fruitful discussion on this issue, for those of us who will soon 
be moving away to rear chickens and goats for milk this issue might not be live 
threatening.  

What about all those fresh graduates coming into the job market are they aware 
that the goal posts have been moved?  

My son recently selected his subjects for higher secondary and when going 
through the career booklet it indicated that ICT job prospects will increase 
until around 2013 when they will then begin to decline as the demand begins to 
tapper off.  Students are therefore being advised to look at ICT as a minor not 
a major stream of study.

I hope the same information can be shared with our secondary school and 
university students who are hoping to make careers in the ICT field.

Regards
 Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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From: meshack emakunat <memakunat at yahoo.com>
To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Sent: Mon, 8 August, 2011 18:38:13
Subject: Re: [kictanet] IT posts for full circle

Hi Maye                                   For sure u have a good arguement on 
ict on its not being successful but i lost you on how ict is being commoditized 
and how this contributes to its failure. Please clarify!                        
                                 thank you                           Meshack

On Mon Aug 8th, 2011 4:17 AM PDT Charles Maye wrote:

>Actually, IT on its own cannot create profits.
>Airtel Kenya has a network that is as good as any. But they are losing cash. 
>Same goes for Telkom Kenya. Africa Online was a great idea born by IT experts. 
>It was ahead of its time and never made money. When a technology is new to the 
>world, it can generate profits. The moment it is duplicated and commoditized and 
>for the rest of its life, it needs another set of skills. That set of skills is 
>what makes organizations select people other than IT experts as CIO's.
>
>Closer home, part of the many reasons the good doctor is so successful at 
>driving our ICT agenda as a country is because he understands how to make 
>technology connect with our aspirations as a people. I stand to be corrected but 
>I believe the good doctor is not an engineer.
>
>Charles Maye
>
>From: kictanet-bounces+cmaye=ke.nationmedia.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke 
>[mailto:kictanet-bounces+cmaye=ke.nationmedia.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On 
>Behalf Of Agosta Liko
>Sent: 08 August 2011 13:25
>To: Charles Maye
>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>Subject: Re: [kictanet] IT posts for full circle
>
>Toma
>
>About - "Lets face it ICT on its own cannot run or profit an organization"
>
>This is not true, Safaricom, Airtel, Access Kenya, Zuku etc etc etc are ALL 
>about IT.
>
>It can create mad profits or drive them
>
>Look at agency banking - its all about branding, float and a device (android 
>app) ... with that a bank cuts on capex
>
>
>Look at Mobile Money - its all IT, Money moves from one account to the other and 
>there are fees for that
>
>For old school corporates - IT is gives massive distribution ... an insurance 
>company does not have to have offices and agents all over the country, all they 
>need is mobile/web interfaces
>
>A good CIO is the difference between USD10,000 for SugarCRM and USD3,000,000 for 
>Siebel ... etc etc etc
>
>Thanks
>On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Thomas Kibui 
><thomas.kibui at gmail.com<mailto:thomas.kibui at gmail.com>> wrote:
>Initially ICT was considered a necessary cost centre within many organizations. 
>It was usually placed under  Operations division or sometimes under the stingy 
>Finance division to control its cost.
>
>Lets face it ICT on its own cannot run or profit an organization. It is a 
>business enabler and unless the ICT division within an organization is able to 
>show the management of that organization that it can operate as a profit centre  
>and actually generate tangible profits OR at least reduce the cost or making 
>profit within other divisions , .. it will never have say in the organization.
>
>Bottom line .. the shareholders want "profits"
>
>Another line of argument that I have heard inside a board room is that .. most 
>of what the ICT team refer to as "ICT Technology" are actually "nice to have" 
>gizmos e.g. iPADs..    But I have reservation about this argument .. simply 
>because those who were saying it were fidgeting with their blackberries ...
>
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