[kictanet] [!! SPAM] Re: Poghisio Flouting The Law in The CCK Tussle-byDMakali

Wed Apr 20 19:26:03 EAT 2011

Jane, could you perhaps, as a consumer, make a judgement call? Recall
part of CCK's mandate gives it certain obligations to the consumer?

Let us not be drawn into interpretation of the law (or start hair
splitting how Mr Njoroge did not score 70% - BTW I'd personally like
to know how he did NOT score 70%).

As consumers - what is our word?   Out there Wanjiku is oblivious of
the battle raging and it is Wanjiku who will carry the day when it
comes to operators' continued relevance and existence...but alas,
Wanjiku is NOT on this mailing list and does not read the Business
Daily (never mind the Nairobi Star).

What does the A in KICTANET stand for?

Sorry, but I am yet to be convinced that the Minister is flouting the
law - lets remember that the law is an ass sometimes.

On 20/04/2011, Jane Thuo <jthuo at amwik.org> wrote:
> I must add my voice in this debate! A critical thing that is playing out
> irrespective of who is acting legally or not is the lack of professionalism
> in the way the boards and management relate to each other. This leads to a
> kind of a context that plays out in the public and which helps no one in
> particular but affects the industry. It is apparent there are sour grapes
> and each party is using different strategies and legal provisions/gaps to
> settle scores. I agree with one of the contributors that upholding good
> faith in all dealings is crucial. If involved parties feel that there are
> differences that need intervention by other stakeholders to resolve them,
> then let them involve them if the source of dispute has to do with real
> issues and not personal. Otherwise, then nothing will ever work so long as
> personality clashes take centre stage and not even the laws or the
> constitution will resolve. We must embrace the spirit of constitutionalism
> because even the law is an "ass" and legal interpretations will not always
> solve issues BUT, the law/legal provisions are important to offer guidance.
> Human beings us included will always try to wriggle and find those
> provisions that favour them. So in this particular case, whether the board
> or the minister is right is subject to who is interpreting what and their
> world view and at the end of the day, there is a stalemate.
>
> Jane
>
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> Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [kictanet] Poghisio Flouting The Law in The CCK
> Tussle-byDMakali
>
> While at this subject, its a pity we are playing safe, leaders at key
> state organisations should come out boldly and state the challenges
> they are facing if any, it does us no good to be gossiping or
> listening to grapevine, I wonder why we don't invoke the law during
> the numerous cocktails we have, let's uphold good faith in all our
> dealings and stop playing cards under the table  as the late Hon.
> Wamalwa challenged the leaders.
>
> On 4/20/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
>> @ Leonard, my reasons for using names is that there are times when we
>> need leadership, I mentioned the Chair and the minister because they
>> have what it takes to resolve the current challenge, we all know that
>> there is the spirit and the letter of the law, good leadership
>> espouses both, I fully agree with Gitau but what is the use of the law
>> if we don't relate well as stakeholders?
>>
>> On 4/20/11, dmakali at yahoo.com <dmakali at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> We need the rule of law, not behind-the-scenes political comprises.
>>> That's
>>> not a sustainable basis for accountable governance in the 21st century.
>>>
>>>
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