[kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
godera at skyweb.co.ke
godera at skyweb.co.ke
Thu May 6 09:20:11 EAT 2010
Hi,
Gilda/Nik/Peres/Dickson/Sammy- Private Sector
Victor/Kasuku- Government
Rgds,
Gilda
Quoting warigia bowman <warigia at gmail.com>:
> Dear Gilda
>
> Can you please tell us what sector each person is coming from? Private
> sector, public sector, civil society?
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:49 AM, <godera at skyweb.co.ke> wrote:
>
> > Hi Harry,
> >
> > Sorry about this delay.
> > The WG members are:
> >
> > - Sylvester Kasuku (OPM Member/Head of Secretariat)
> > - Gilda Odera (Chairperson)
> > - Nik Nesbitt
> > - Victor Kyalo (Joint Secretary)
> > - Sammy Burachara
> > - Dickson Ogolla (Secretariat)
> > - Peres Were (Joint Secretary
> >
> > Check gazette notice no.107 18th December for more information.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Gilda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>:
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gilda,
> > >
> > > We are awaiting you to unveil the 6 gents/ladies Task force on ICT below
> > -
> > > specifically, their
> > > mandate/objectives who they are accountable to, and it's scope of
> > > participatory engagement with
> > > the wider multi stakeholders..
> > >
> > > When is this coming..?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Harry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=
> > comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
> > > Behalf Of godera at skyweb.co.ke
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:39 AM
> > > To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> > > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> > >
> > >
> > > Listers,
> > >
> > > I think this is a very healthy debate for the industry.
> > > Esther, whereas whatever body will face the same queries over their
> > mandate,
> > > in my view, what is most important is that each respective body plays it
> > > part to the full and possibly even surpass the expectations of the
> > industry.
> > > As long as they are all forging towards one goal (making Kenya the ICT
> > Hub
> > > in Africa)in all their activities, the industry will have gained.
> > > What is important is that all these bodies do not fight each other,
> > rather
> > > complement one another to grow this industry.
> > > We must all work together for good of this industry and nation.
> > >
> > > Gilda Odera
> > > Chair, BPO/ITES Working Group at the Office of the Prime Minister
> > >
> > > (For those not aware, a group of 6 persons from Private Sector and
> > > Government was recently put together for a two year term to advise on
> all
> > > these issues
> > > being raised in this list. Your views are being noted.)
> > >
> > > Quoting Esther Muchiri <emuchiri at andestbites.com>:
> > >
> > > > Good suggestions Harry, but while I am not a pessimist, I have a
> > > > feeling that with time, whatever body will be formed will still face
> > > > the same attacks/questions from the industry on the mandate etc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps the upcoming public forum will begin to shed some light in the
> > > > direction ICT development in Kenya should follow?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emuchiri <kictanet-bounces%2Bemuchiri>=
> > andestbites.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > > ] On Behalf Of Harry Delano
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:21 PM
> > > > To: emuchiri at andestbites.com
> > > > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
> > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lilian,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is so comprehensive.. Hope, notes are being taken from these
> > > > resourceful discussions coming in.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mine, is just a proposal. Clearly, the different agencies existing,
> > > > happen to work within some form of
> > > >
> > > > mandate in their own areas of jurisdiction or so, whether the mandates
> > > > are competing mandates or
> > > >
> > > > a duplication, it may be quite difficult to just "merge" them..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Clearly, Listers - one thing that is now clear, is that ICT is a huge
> > > > phenomenon, that cuts' out across
> > > >
> > > > the entire spectrum of Govt and ministries - beyond INFOCOM. This
> > > > means, stakeholders from other
> > > >
> > > > Govt. sectors need to be brought into the fold to harmonize strategy..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I suppose therefore, this may call for an oversight body - to which,
> > > > each of the Govt agencies can have a
> > > >
> > > > representation. This oversight, could encompass reps, from all
> > > > sectors, private , and govt. All interests
> > > >
> > > > should be declared as a pre-requisite to serving on this panel for
> > > > purposes of accountability and
> > > >
> > > > transparency..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If in order, I could float some names for such a body, such as:-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > * National ICT Task Force - (NICTAF)
> > > > * National ICT Agency of Kenya - (NICTAK)
> > > > * National ICT Oversight Board -(NICTOB)
> > > >
> > > > Other names are welcome..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Harry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>=
> > comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> > > > On Behalf Of Lilian Karanja
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:43 AM
> > > > To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> > > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, Robert.......I see.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Certainly, what GoK needs is ICT Governance. "Without governance you
> > > > do not produce good decisions consistently. 'Governance' in the
> > > > context of the management of ICT crafts a clear framework in which
> > > > decisions are made, who makes the decisions about business and
> > > > technology developments, who has input into the decision-making
> process
> > > and how the decisions are formed".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In my opinion, the ICT Board (under Min. Of Info Comm), the
> > > > Directorate of e-Government (under OP), the GITS Department (under
> > > > Min. Of Finance), and both the CCK and NCS (both under Min. Of Info
> > > > Comm) seem to have related ICT goals and objectives. They
> > > > (unfortunately) don't seem to oftenly collaborate in their
> > > > decision-making. I personally like the idea of a KITA like SITA/RITA.
> > > > Sometime ago, the Directorate of e-Government seemed to come-up into a
> > > > KITA (in the way we think of SITA/RITA), but did not 'mature' into the
> > > institution envisioned.
> > > >
> > > > GoK ICT Governance Decisions would ideally focus on:
> > > >
> > > > . Determining the strategic approach to e-government and ICT
> > > within
> > > > GoK
> > > >
> > > > . How the e-government initiatives should be used in GoK, to
> > > improve
> > > > services, reduce costs, develop the community, etc
> > > >
> > > > . How fundamental e-government and ICT is to GoK and the
> > country
> > > at
> > > > large
> > > >
> > > > . The way e-government and ICT is to be managed (e.g. by what
> > > > mechanism and how resources are to be managed)
> > > >
> > > > . The way investments are to be made and policies on
> realising
> > > and
> > > > sharing benefits
> > > >
> > > > . How the required skills are to be procured (through
> > strategic
> > > > partnerships, in-house, through consortium, etc)
> > > >
> > > > . The principles that underlie the ICT architecture
> > > >
> > > > . Setting priorities and determining e-government and ICT
> > > > investment programmes
> > > >
> > > > . Managing the foundations and regulations regarding the core
> > > > elements of the infrastructure:
> > > >
> > > > o Personnel - who will be responsible for their professional
> > development
> > > > and where certain skills should reside
> > > >
> > > > o Methods and techniques - what project/programme management,
> > > development
> > > > and operations management standards should be used
> > > >
> > > > o Charging mechanisms and services standards (performance
> > management)
> > > >
> > > > o Information - standards to enable the effective sharing of
> > information
> > >
> > > >
> > > > o Core applications - intranet, finance systems, payroll,
> registries
> > > and
> > > > personnel standards, etc
> > > >
> > > > o Technical - network, consolidated service desk, data standards
> > > >
> > > > o Security
> > > >
> > > > o Legal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This has conspicuously missed within GoK, in the past years. We look
> > > > to GoK greatly to spur 'mwananchi' by keenly committing to 'add value'
> > > > to broadband so that their attitude, confidence and appreciation
> > > > towards the use ICTs and the Internet increases (especially in the
> > > > rural areas, as they access Government e-Services), thus creating an
> > > > Internet Community and an IT culture. Am not sure we necessarily need
> > > > support from outside to do this, even donor funds (we don't need). We
> > > > can do it on our own, as we (Kenya) are, now, known to be an emerging
> > > > knowledge economy. GoK can lead the way to create a Kenyan way
> > > > 'working with'and using ICT. We have so many Youth (any way), who are
> > > > jobless! Lets purposefully develop capacity of these young and use
> them
> > > sufficiently.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I rest my case, and I apologise for any misunderstandings.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > LILIAN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > Subject: Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> > > > To: "Lilian Karanja" <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> > > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > > > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 12:32 AM
> > > >
> > > > Hi Lilian,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just wanted to clarify an issue, government has some of the best
> > > > trained ICT fellows and I know because I have regularly interacted
> > > > with them for over 10 years. Do not be deceived by the fact that they
> > > > are no fancy websites or iphone applications the men and women who
> > > > keep the government systems running are basically miracle workers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How they do it is beyond my comprehension and the last thin they need
> > > > is a capacity building what they need like all with the other areas of
> > > > government is a co-ordinator or a Deputy Prime Minister IS. Hon Raila
> > > > has definitely moved government efficiency a notch higher and without
> > > > a "dream team" or expatriate consultants all he did was dust off the
> > > diamonds within.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Government has a beautiful retention strategy which is we pay you for
> > > > 2 hours a day and we expect you to only deliver the paid for work, if
> > > > you are unable to find something profitable to do with the balance 6
> > > > hours then that is your problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What we need is a deputy prime minister information systems or ICT or
> > > > BPO whatever the name of which KICTB has proven not to be to "desilo"
> > > > (term coined by Dr. Ndemo during the PM Round table meeting) the
> > > > government activities.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you government ICT gurus stick your heads out and defend your
> > > > selves, I know many of you are on this listing, so be warned that next
> > > > time I need to put the record strait on your behalf I will actually
> > name
> > > names.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert Yawe
> > > > KAY System Technologies Ltd
> > > > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> > > > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> > > > Kenya
> > > >
> > > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Lilian Karanja <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> > > > To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> > > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > > > Sent: Mon, 5 April, 2010 16:58:41
> > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear PS:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is a little discouraging to hear you say that the issues discussed
> > > > in this topic are 'kuchongoana tu'. We look up to you, and others in
> > > > Government and also in the private sector who are so passionate about
> > > > the use of ICTs and the Internet to create opportunities for all, in
> > > > Kenya, and see that ICT remains a reliable vehicle for economic growth
> > > > and development. So, please don't stop listening to us, patiently and
> > > > we beseech you to continue in your wisdom in dealing with these
> > matters.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This topic, 'Who is ICT Board?' as well as that of 'eGovernment is it
> > > > a myth or reality?' have raised important questions that should be
> > > > addressed with 'a big heart' and an open mind. As you have noted, a
> > > > town hall meeting is good and always welcome. However, moving forward,
> > > > it needs to be clear how ICT Board interacts with Government and how
> > > > it promotes the existence of an Institutional Framework for ICT
> > > > management in Government. Clearly, the ICT Board manages of a huge
> > > > chunk of donor funds for ICT growth in Kenya, eGovernment and the
> > > > likes (through the KTCIP), but still the Government lags behind in
> > their
> > > ICT technical know-how and skills.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > While one of their mandate (the ICT Board) is Capacity Building
> > > > (Providing GoK and other stakeholders with skills, capacity and
> > > > funding for anchor implementation of ICT projects for development)
> > > > over time we have only seen laxity in the management of ICT by
> > > > Government i.e. poor websites, unsatisfactory performance of legacy
> > > > systems, inconsistent DNS & IP address management, meagre IT Security
> > > > (web, network, etc), little or no R&D and M&E of ICT & eGovt, etc. But
> > > > may be it is not deliberate laxity, it is that the Government Officers
> > > > who manage IT issues in Government are not continuously trained in all
> > > pertinent areas to raise experts and skillful personnel.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I hope this is an area ICT Board can address, when they say that part
> > > > of their mandate is Capacity Building, otherwise we have Government
> > > > Officers who cannot do much to use broadband properly and
> > > > strategically as well as make eGovernment a reality. The cabilities of
> > > > these Officers should be close to, if not better than those in the
> > > > private sector. And when GoK finally has real experts and engineers in
> > > > ICT, a retention strategy MUST be adopted to keep them and recompense
> > > > them accordingly. This is the future of Government IT, 'people who are
> > > knowledgeable and focused on a bright future'.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > LILIAN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> > > > To: "Lilian" <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> > > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > > > Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 9:42 AM
> > > >
> > > > Barrack,
> > > > Several posts have come by on the role of ICT and I think it will be
> > > > wise if we sorted this in a town hall meeting similar to one we had on
> > > Malili.
> > > > Honestly it feels as though some Neanderthal decided to create these
> > > > agencies without putting some thought to it. Criticisms are good only
> > > > when you point out where there are gaps.
> > > >
> > > > The other day I posted a policy proposal for comments but only one
> > > > person did respond. What it means then is that this forum ni ya
> > > kuchongoana tu.
> > > > Which really is unfortunate. I have four other policy proposals that
> > > > I really think should push through then arouse sufficient interest
> > > > from the membership here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ndemo.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This is truly "Jicho Pevu", i think some answers to this questions
> > > > > are very much in order as we celebrate Easter, can someone provide
> > > > > us with a list of all agencies involved in ICTs and ICT4D so that we
> > > > > can do some tooth comb analysis, i saw a post from Paul on what the
> > > > > board has achieved early this year, that was very much in order we
> > > > > need something from NCS as well plus any other agencies.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Vitalis Olunga <volunga at yahoo.com
> > > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=volunga@yahoo.com> >
> > wrote:
> > > > >> There is also another body , National Communications Secretarait.
> > > > >> What is the diffrence between NCS and ICT Baord and how do the two
> > > > >> bodies relate with respect to advisory services to the governement
> > > > >> on ICT matters?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Vitalis
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ________________________________
> > > > >> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> > > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > >
> > > > >> To: volunga at yahoo.com
> > > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=volunga@yahoo.com>
> > > > >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.
> > > > or.ke>
> > > > >
> > > > >> Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 12:03:22 PM
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >> I rest my case on this issue, the ICT Board is a monolith, Try
> > > > >> reading this... (pdf file), as I feared it is mandated to do
> > > > >> anything and everything under the sun that could be called ICT
> > > > >> which includes your microwave oven and copier.
> > > > >> Functions of Kenya ICT Board
> > > > >> The core functions of Kenya ICT Board as documented in the Kenya
> > > > >> Gazette Legal Notice No 26 of the May 2007:
> > > > >> . To advice the government on all relevant matters pertaining to
> > > > >> development, coordination (remember the PM post) and promotion of
> > > > >> ICT industries in the country.
> > > > >> . Promote both locally and internationally the opportunities for
> > > > >> investments in ICT technology . Facilitate and manage ICT
> > > > >> industrial incubation parks and technology parks together with
> > > > >> associated facilities on sites, estates and land.
> > > > >> . Partner with agents within and without the country to carry out
> > > > >> such functions as it may consider necessary.
> > > > >> . To transform and empower society through deployment and use of
> > ICTs.
> > > > >> . Carry out any other activity to promote and develop ICT products
> > > > >> and services.
> > > > >> Have a restful Easter as we await the limited range 4G, yes you
> > > > >> guessed it I still have a 3G issue and I am in Nairobi.
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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