[kictanet] Who is ICT Board
Harry Delano
harry at comtelsys.co.ke
Tue Mar 30 22:00:28 EAT 2010
Listers,
One thing I have seen under the sky on this forum is, pertinent questions /issues keep on
being raised. However, they seem to hang somewhere suspended in middair. So therefore to
reverse this trend of open ended cross-examination, and because we have to move forward -
I suppose for each of the queries that cover considerable airtime on the forum need now to
henceforth be forwarded to respective respondents - Hope secretariat can take up other
case scenarios arising. Some of these issues are too pertinent to be ignored.
And, so Bob, for your query, I suppose we have read from Lucy - The communication Manager
of ICT Board (Copied) before, responding to ICT Board related queries (at least one that I
raised last week) and am sure she will be in a position to respond sufficiently on this
for the benefit of all.
While at it, do we also have corporate communication managers or spokesmen/women from the
ministry/CCK...? And their email addresses..? And the main service providers..
Let's seek to action a number of things we need to see done through appropriate mediums..
Regards,
Harry
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From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu Kamau
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:15 PM
To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
On 30/03/2010, ikua at lpakenya.org <ikua at lpakenya.org> wrote:
> Its actually there.
> http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/82-asia/149-from-bears-to-bird
> s
>
> Maybe you need to be more direct and ask what you want to ask. Reading
> between the lines I think there is something you are getting at.
> Evans
Are you asking for what exactly is the ICT Board and its mandated task? TOR perhaps? Modus operandi?
Just as Evans has asked, a more direct question would make it easier to respond to your question.
Mburu
>
> Quoting robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It seems my thread has been hijacked and the core issue assasinated,
>> I ask again "Who is ICT Board?"
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
>> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>;
>> ke users <ke-internetusers at bdix.net>
>> Sent: Fri, 26 March, 2010 20:10:19
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
>>
>> Paul,
>> This example of PPP is an important milestone in my opinion based on
>> the need to make the society more responsive to the role of the govt
>> in service provision.
>> I do hope that the transcript for the meeting will be availed for
>> those who cannot make it to Coast
>>
>> On 26/03/2010, Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Paul,
>>>
>>> Thanks alot for your invaluable feedback. It sheds light, and we do
>>> appreciate. Let's avail as much info, as we can on "goings on", and
>>> engage stakeholders far and wide so that a crucial constituency does
>>> not get left out.
>>>
>>> At best it might seem an all "Exclusive affair", or some kind of a
>>> "Members only" club - all these well meaning forums...
>>>
>>> We look forward to following the events, on the tools you have
>>> mentioned..
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: Paul Kukubo [mailto:pkukubo at ict.go.ke]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:27 PM
>>> To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; ke users
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
>>>
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> You make a good point. But again, we have different forums for
>>> different people with different interests and our stakeholders cut
>>> across to every citizen. This just happens to be about government
>>> and private sector practitioners.
>>>
>>> May I suggest that we start a discussion on shared services and
>>> government and private sector PPPs and best practices. The ICT Board
>>> has just concluded a contract with firm that won a tender to develop
>>> shared services in government. We have also received some further
>>> grant funds through fundraising we do to extend this to local
>>> government. As an example when the city council of Nairobi or indeed
>>> Mombasa can run SAP or Oracle, People Soft (just as examples) for it
>>> core financialls, HR workflow and the IT departments have CIOs
>>> driving IT, citizens will see greater value and local providers of
>>> these useful services will also benefit. Indeed this is the vision.
>>>
>>> This discussion on this list has been clouded by two things:
>>>
>>> * Mombasa. which is chosen because it is a lovely place for
>>> senior people to
>>> spend time uninterrupted. I am reminded here of how we sell Kenya.
>>> as an example in attracting Nethope to host their global summit
>>> here, I did mention the excellent safaris, the variety of
>>> restaurants and Mombasa as part of the appeal. Nethope members did
>>> also visit local communities in Kajiado and speak to techies at
>>> JKUAT. part of what participants will see is a telepresence (high
>>> end video conferencing) pilot implementation linking Mombasa and
>>> Nairobi courts, in Mombasa's north coast.
>>>
>>> * Stakeholder participation. This is a closed event, but we shall
>>> provide
>>> tools for people to follow through twitter, Facebook, our website,
>>> sponsor websites, youtube postings and some media houses at the
>>> event will provide dissemination. we shall record the entire summit
>>> proceeding.
>>>
>>> I have just asked my team to post the report from the last
>>> conference onto our website www.ict.go.ke. The key success of last
>>> year's conference is the fact that we have now commenced on the road
>>> to government shared services.
>>> Anyone who understands the IT and government space well will confirm
>>> that this is a big step.
>>>
>>> Asante
>>>
>>> Paul Kukubo
>>> Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board PO Box 27150 - 00100
>>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>>
>>> 12th Floor, Teleposta Towers Koinange Street
>>>
>>> Tel +254 20 2089061, +254 20 2211960
>>> Fax: +254 20 2211962
>>> website: www.ict.go.ke
>>> local content project: www.tandaa.co.ke,
>>> www.facebook.com/tandaakenya twitter:@tandaaKENYA BPO Project: www.
>>> doitinkenya.co.ke Digital Villages Project: www.pasha.co.ke
>>>
>>>
>>> personal contacts
>>> _______________
>>>
>>> Cell: + 254 735 180001
>>>
>>>
>>> skype: kukubopaul
>>> googletalk: pkukubo
>>> personal blog: www.paulkukubo.co.ke
>>> personal twitter: @pkukubo
>>>
>>>
>>> ____________________
>>> Vision: Kenya becomes a top ten global ICT hub
>>>
>>> Mission: To champion and actively enable Kenya to adopt and exploit
>>> ICT, through promotion of partnerships, investments and
>>> infrastructure growth for socio economic enrichment
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Harry Delano
>>> <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lucy,
>>>
>>> If you are online, kindly address the sentiments from listers on the
>>> summit.
>>>
>>> I believe there is a general feeling that the broader ICT discussion
>>> that needs to be the agenda for the summit, could take a "back
>>> seat", as your interim list of invitees who seem to be mostly MNC's
>>> compete fiercely to market themselves and their solutions and carry
>>> out aggressive lobbying at the same time to sway policy that works
>>> in their favor. It perhaps would be advisable for the Board to
>>> ensure a balanced participation in such forums in future, so that
>>> others who do not have "vested" interests can keep the debate
>>> focussed and balanced. It would also ensure that eskewed policy is
>>> not a "by-product" or "end product" of these important meetings.
>>>
>>> That is why discussants here are interested, and request that you
>>> make arrangements that would transmit live proceedings from the
>>> summit at Leisure Lodge, possibly via an internet twitter feed, or
>>> you can organise for live "call ins". Participants, can tune in and
>>> contribute widely. The summit discussions/reports, and action plans
>>> can be availed online.
>>>
>>> Are there such plans afoot..?
>>>
>>> Harry
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:Emmanuel.khisa at kadet.co.ke]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:29 PM
>>>
>>> To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
>>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
>>>
>>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harry (Not Hare),
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I asked the same question. Still waiting for a response, who are the
>>> invitees for this very important meeting of minds? And what is the
>>> Criterion?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:
>>> kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa=kadet.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emmanuel.khisa
>>> <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bemmanuel.khisa>
>>> =kadet.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano
>>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:11 AM
>>> To: emmanuel.khisa at kadet.co.ke
>>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Solomon, and Wals, - point taken..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And while at it;- "The connected Government summit of 2010"
>>> announcement,
>>> as released by Lucy of ICT Board on Wed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Listers, whats' your take..? It's all the way in Mombasa - at
>>> Leisure Lodge, where I do not think alot of people have been invited
>>>
>>> to take part. Is there any way policy discussants would be able to
>>> follow the proceedings from there or in a way participate, as
>>>
>>> most of the ICT practitioners I see on the roll seem to be
>>> multinationals (MNC's)..?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Once again, I suppose it could be an opportunity to impress on those
>>> up there, what the real stakeholders want to see put in place.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harry..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>
>>> =comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Solomon Mburu
>>> Kamau
>>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 9:11 AM
>>> To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 March 2010 08:54, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Harry (not the Hare ;-)
>>>
>>> As Jesus once said, let those who have ears, hear...
>>>
>>>
>>> Even in 'coded messages' that Jesus gave, He would later explain to
>>> His disciples and other interested parties.
>>>
>>>
>>> On another level, I think the link provided by Walu gives an insight
>>> on what ICT Board is all about. Methinks we should get to Bw. Kukubo
>>> to further explain to us on ICT Board is exactly!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> walu.
>>> nb: its a coded message but am sure it is quite clear to those who
>>> must take action to interven.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>
>>> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
>>> To: "'Walubengo J'" <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'"
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>
>>> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 2:19 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Walu,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Could you please "interpret", I think we lost you somewhere along
>>> the way.... It seems some kind of a "mishmash"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bharry>
>>> =comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Walubengo J
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:39 AM
>>> To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yawe,
>>>
>>> Google brought me the official answer @
>>> http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php/theboard/our-mandate-a-objectives
>>>
>>> But I could add my own "unofficial" perspective/personal opinion
>>> which is that the ICT Board could be the Ministry of Information
>>> implementing agent for ICT Strategies/Projects/Activities. This
>>> could have been occasioned by the e-Government Secretariate and GITS
>>> (Government Info Technology
>>> Services)
>>> cold-war and power games that may have compromised on each others
>>> ability to deliver on technology enabled services for Government.
>>>
>>> walu.
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 3/25/10, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> Subject: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board?
>>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:01 AM
>>>
>>> Who is ICT Board and what exactly is their mandate?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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