[kictanet] Nothing like free dinner

[waudo siganga]

Hi all - after attending this ICANN meetings for some years I can
add that those who want to make contributions and influence the
decision makers have both the formal sessions and the informal
social functions. The social functions are justa as important to
get close one-on-one with the decision makers. For example at
yesterday's cross-constituency (free) breakfast with the ICANN
Board  the 5 Kenyans who were present were requested to make
addresses and Evelyn Rono, Robert Yawe, Doris Ofisi, Anthony
Karanja and Harry Hare made full use of the opportunity to make
impressive points directly to the Board members.

Waudo
Since flew to Mombasa

On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:29 -0800, "Walubengo J" <jwalu at yahoo.com>
wrote:

  Wamuyu,
  I want to believe you and Tim are both right  about Kenyan
  involvement in the ICANN process.  You could be right in that
  very few KENYAN voices are being heard and this could be because
  for most Kenyans this is their 1st ICANN Meeting - and one must
  learn their environment before engaging their mouths.
  However, Tim is also right in that the ICANN meeting has many
  parallel programs (away from the main hall) that are technical
  and very engaging. I have found many Kenyans enjoying their time
  in these other forums that are equally important but less visible
  (glamorous?)


That said, it may be good that next time(maybe it was done), the
core Kenyan team (KENIC, CCK, Gov?) would elicit Kenyan positions
on various issues and strategically plant some Kenyans in the
"crowd" to present those views when the ICANN board/councils open
the floor for discussions. Methinks that that is what other
countries, business communities and other stakeholders do.


Like today I was shocked to hear a verbal submission from the
guys who want to run something called the dot.gay
domain...Needless to say I couldnt contribute because I was
simply undergoing some cultural-shock just by staring at THIS guy
and not hearing what he was saying (but that's a story for
another day ;-) Yeah, looks like the internet is not just about
wires and cables...


walu.


walu.
--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyulearn at yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

  From: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyulearn at yahoo.co.uk>
  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nothing like free dinner
  To: jwalu at yahoo.com
  Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
  <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
  Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 12:41 PM

Tim, please substantiate. Yesterday I was at the county code NSO
meeting, than later at the commercial actors meeting and finally
at the GAC/ICANN board meetings. No Kenyan spoke at the first two
meetings (if they were present). Alice and Michael (CCK) made an
important intervention on the distraction and unfairness to Kenya
of the security hollabalu - but no one else was around to support
them in defending Kenya. Note also that this was the meeting
where the ICANN board was trying once more to conclude the EOI
issue on generic TLDs - businesses from developed countries can
barely wait for this decision to be made.

Actually, I think the weak Kenyan engagement is genuine and not
one that we should necessarily be defensive about. Am new to
ICANN and if I had not made the decision to attend the meeting a
little while ago, I would never have understood its agenda and
whats at stake. Those who have been involved in ICANN longer may
have points to contribute on increasing Kenya's involvement.

regards, Wamuyu
  ____________________________________________________________

From: McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
To: Wamuyu Gatheru <wamuyulearn at yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Tue, 9 March, 2010 23:30:56
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nothing like free dinner
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Wamuyu Gatheru
<wamuyulearn at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> nothing to do with Kenya. There must be good reasons why
European, American,
> Asian and Australian businesspeople and their governments have
hyper
> involvement while their Kenyan hosts are minding their
shugulis...?
Are we attending different meetings?
I've been in a dozen meetings, and their have always been Kenyans
in
each one, many of them actively participating.
--
Cheers,
McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is.
A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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