[kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest

Fri Jul 16 11:33:09 EAT 2010

There has been a Data Protection Bill sitting on the legislative table next
to the Freedom of Information Act waiting.... There were discussions on this
list previously as well as on Skunkworks. Any with soft copies?

Crystal

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Sam Gatere <sam.gatere at gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting View Barrack,
>
> When we think promotion we automatically think its the carrier promoting
> their product, but as Edith puts it National Interest verses Privacy! This
> looks like a push marketing to possibly an unwilling buyer! so this comes
> through as an intrusion of privacy for those who are in  favour or not in
> favour of the said promotional message.
>
> Could someone shed some light on what the Kenya Communication Act says
> about data protection and privacy? Does the New constitution have anything
> on Privacy and data protection?
>
>
> And yes as Barrack puts it is a catch 22...
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Well, i see no problem with promotional sms,s its what makes the
>> Information economy tick, i am looking at this as an entrepreneur and as a
>> consumer, its a catch 22 just the way an employee complains about his or her
>> employer yet the former might as well decide to have his or her own
>> organisation, this simply justify the need for the data protection act to
>> ensure that the promotions are done within the law, i see no problem with
>> what Safaricom did, they are out to make money and it is the biggest tax
>> payer, at least a road will be fixed somewhere out of the money they make.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <
>> solo.mburu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/07/2010, Badru Ntege <ntegeb at one2net.co.ug> wrote:
>>> > Do subscribers in Kenya have an option to stop these sms's ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > In Uganda you send STOP to the sending number and your number would be
>>> > deleted from the senders database.  The only problem is you are charged
>>> for
>>> > the sms you send to have your number deleted.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > It seems to be working.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Why should a person be charged to unsubscribe from a service they
>>> didn't request or subscribe to?
>>>
>>> If one subscribed, that's understood very well.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> >
>>> > regards
>>> >
>>> > From: kictanet-bounces+ntegeb=one2net.co.ug at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+ntegeb <kictanet-bounces%2Bntegeb>=
>>> one2net.co.ug at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>>> > Behalf Of Victor Gathara
>>> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:33 AM
>>> > To: ntegeb at one2net.co.ug
>>> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Following this with interest. I think it would be improper for networks
>>> to
>>> > sell/avail subscriber numbers to others for promotional purposes
>>> because
>>> > subscribers don't have a choice to opt in to this when they sign up for
>>> the
>>> > service (I certainly didn't). Promotions from the network itself are of
>>> > course a different matter altogether.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Regarding spam where the sender gets phone numbers through unscrupulous
>>> > means the only solution may be to press the DELETE key. Sim card
>>> > registration should make it possible to pursue and prosecute offenders
>>> > (assuming there is a law against spamming in Kenya).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Victor
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   _____
>>> >
>>> > From: kictanet-bounces+v-gathara=dfid.gov.uk at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+v-gathara <kictanet-bounces%2Bv-gathara>=
>>> dfid.gov.uk at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>>> > Behalf Of dennis kipruto
>>> > Sent: 16 July 2010 08:12
>>> > To: Victor Gathara
>>> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest
>>> >
>>> > I also got one. It seems Safaricom has a case to Answer.More so i
>>> didn't
>>> > sign up for any YES Campaign media gimic. I would call the SMS a spam
>>> SMS.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Today I received a promotional sms from the "YES" campaign. Can
>>> Safaricom
>>> > explain how our phone numbers were leaked?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Edith
>>> >
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