[kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 5 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources- Continuation

Fri Jul 9 15:34:04 EAT 2010

 Hi Judy/All,

Talking about KENIC (with the caveat that I unfortunately missed
the AGM); but what control does KENIC actually have over its
registrars e.g with the quality of hosting services????? Some of
the registrars appear to want to cut corners by getting cheap but
"unreliable" hosting solutions and this can adversely affect the
uptake of .ke. Furthermore domain porting between registrars is a
problem and I wonder what procedures KENIC has for this? For one
I know that it is not possbile to port until the subscription
expires and then there seems to be a very small window which
appears to be the registrars secret weapon, meaning once you are
stuck with a registrar it is practically impossible to escape.
And last time I had a .ke domain I paid the registrar for renewal
and this was never done. Eventually I seem to have lost the
domain.

Kind Regards,
Waudo

On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:20 +0300, "Judy Okite"
<judyokite at gmail.com> wrote:

  Dear All,

maybe we have already switched to the 'weekend mode'....:-)...

looking at the KENIC situation, with the
equipment/infrastructure/ capacity that they have, they are way
up above a registrar....so what does that make them?

Any knowledgeable person to give us a peek into this matter?

Secondly, the high prices of domain registration:

 KENIC's pricing of .[1]co.ke is Ksh 2000/ and that for .ac & .sc
is Ksh 500/- P/A

KENIC' s administrator ,Kiragu,  mentioned during one of the
sessions in the ICANN 38,Nairobi....that the prices are normally
agreed and passed during KENIC's AGM.

Was there any changes to that effect, this year?

Querries, comments, corrections are welcomed!

Kind Regards,

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Judy Okite
<[2]judyokite at gmail.com> wrote:

  Greetings All,

  Thank you, for all your inputs to the previous threads.  Feel
  free to post your belated remarks on the previous themes, by
  clicking  on the correct subject/title.

  Today, we continue to discuss Critical Internet Resources,

  1.       DNSSEC

  2.       IPV6- the regulatory angle,

  Yesterday,on Regulation McTim,said and I quote “I am of the
  opinion that if a person or org wants to live in a v4 world,
  then a nation state sholdn't preclude them from doing that.
  Having said that, I think it would be useful to point out that
  most (if not all) kit imported (new and used) is either v6
  ready or with a few software changes, can be made v6 ready.”

  What is your thought?  Should we be concerned about e.g the
  hardware getting into our country ?

   And if we should, who should be in charge of that?

   Reactions?

   Today , we add

  3. .ke ccTLD management (Kenya Country Top Level Domain)

  Kenya Network Information Center (KENIC) was borne through a
  broad based consultative process of the "Local Internet
  Community" with an aim to institute a local non-profit
  organization to manage and operate the .KE ccTLD. This was an
  initial step to facilitate growth of the Internet sub-sect and
  foster the uptake of ICT's in the country through a public
  private partnership (ppp's). [3]www.kenic.or.ke

  KENIC has been managing the .ke , since its inception, but
  last year,

  The Kenya Communications (Amendment) Act of 2009 mandated the
  Commission to provide public policy oversight on the
  administration and management of the dot KE country code Top
  Level Domain (ccTLD).

  [4]http://www.e-
  [5]government.go.ke/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_detai
  ls&gid=1&Itemid=119

  1.       A message sent by Mr. Walubengo, before the
  discussions begun and I quote

“ I just have an update from yesterday's KENIC AGM
([6]www.kenic.or.ke) where the Chair, Sammy Buruchara made some
clarification on the role of the regulator (CCK) with regards to
the management of the 2nd level Kenyan domain name space.

While he conceded  that the Kenya Comm. Act (2009) does mandate
the Regulator to oversee these subdomains,  the Minister had yet
to issue regulations on how it would be done because most
stakeholders have shown concern and reservations on that specific
clause...meaning status quo remains where the multistakeholder,
public private partnership that makes up KENIC still manages and
oversees all levels of the .KE namespace untill hopefully some
consensus is reached on the way forward...”

  Why has it taken this long for the Minister to act? Is there a
  system/process and is it underway?

  I would love to hear from the knowledgeable people, what
  effect has this had in the market, more especially for the
  Registrars.

  Your thoughts, inputs, corrections, are most welcome…

  Kind Regards,
  --
  “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who
  you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why
  you want to get there.” Kofi Annan

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“To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you
are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want
to get there.” Kofi Annan

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References

1. http://co.ke/
2. mailto:judyokite at gmail.com
3. http://www.kenic.or.ke/
4. http://www.e-/
5. http://government.go.ke/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=1&Itemid=119
6. http://www.kenic.or.ke/
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