[kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010 Mailing List Discussions Day 2 of 8 Theme : Infrastructure Issues - Impact of the Fibre Optic Cable IGF Mailing List Discussions

Wed Jul 7 10:31:06 EAT 2010

Thank you Charles and Sam for your observation and positive outlook. I agree
with Sam, having a highway without vehicles to ply on is a mirage
nonetheless Charles is right in pointing out the very fact with the few
vehicles on the highway the future looks bright. That nothwithstanding and
considering the fact that 70 percent of our economy is composed of the
informal sector we need a sustained campaign that will ensure this segment
is brought onto the Super highway.

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Sam Aguyo <saguyo at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear Listeners,
>
> I think we need to be more inward looking, the golden murmur should have
> been Seacom is down so our BPOs are suffering huge losses.  Indeed we have
> the superhighway but apparently not vehicles to run on it.   When the Anti
> Terrorist Police Unit first released its rapid communication channels i had
> worries since it was a yahoo.com address, am glad they quickly changed and
> now it is go.ke, a good development.  We now have 3 cables if am not
> mistaken but if there are no Buses not even matatus to ply on them, then
> they are a mirage.
>
> Considerable impact will be felt when we stop, think, ponder and seize the
> opportunity that comes with the infrastructure than wait to complain that
> the infrastructure itself is not in itself giving business opportunity.
>
> Well Walu, am already doing research on something related.
>
>
> Sam Aguyo
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
> *To:* saguyo at yahoo.com
>
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Tue, July 6, 2010 5:15:39 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010 Mailing List Discussions Day 2 of
> 8 Theme : Infrastructure Issues - Impact of the Fibre Optic Cable IGF
> Mailing List Discussions
>
> One of the views in regards to the undersea cables, is realistically
> speaking, the current situation. As Walu pointed out, all users of
> .com have been affectedby the effects of Seacom's state of affairs.
>
> This is perhaps one of the many reasons as to why the Undersea Cables
> were a 'mess' from the word go. It beats logic why the breakdown or
> whatever has not been restored to its full capacity, as we speak.
> Could there be sabotage?
>
> Back to your query: The socio-economioc impact of the cables.
> 1. They are anticipated to open more job opportunities (BPO, E-stuff)
> 2. They would generally improve the economic and security of countries
> thus enhancing interdepence and social closeness.
> 3. The most notable impact, in my view, was the momentus speed that
> would usher quick businesses thus economic growth.
>
> The youth would have benefitted greatly considering that they
> constitute to the majority of workforce. In such a view, growth in
> countries where the cables pass would be great, maybe +10% p.a.
> The value addition, as of now, remains to be seen!
>
> On 06/07/2010, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Barrack,
> >
> > internet traffic is truly messed up down here. Considering that our
> domestic
> > networks+local content are relatively non-existent we are heavy consumers
> > international traffic - even my email, yours and many others are .com and
> so
> > they will try to head out of the country through constrained links given
> > that Seacom has gone down with probably 50%? of our international
> > capacity...
> >
> > it only emphasis the sorry state of affairs that despite the pomp
> > surrounding the advent of the undersea cable, there is yet to be that
> > socio-economic revolution that was expected. Maybe there is but I have
> not
> > yet heard about BPO jobs flooding our market, eLearning taking off,
> > eCommerce and the rest of the goodies happening because we now have the
> > superhighway down at the coast...indeed someone can do a good PhD thesis
> on
> > why this is so and inform us exactly when the IT miracle will happen (the
> > Indian style).
> >
> > walu.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010 Mailing List Discussions Day 2 of
> 8
> > Theme : Infrastructure Issues - Impact of the Fibre Optic Cable IGF
> Mailing
> > List Discussions
> > To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 2:42 PM
> >
> > Listers , there is very loud silence with regard to Infrastructure issues
> i
> > suppose we have adopted a wait and see approach, i can hear murmus across
> > various lists within the country as well as regionally that seacom is
> down
> >
> http://www.seacomblog.com/team-seacom/2010/07/seacom-service-down-seacom-actively-seeking-solutions
> ,
> > probably we are getting used to this scenario, however is this right?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Listers,
> >
> > Apologies for starting the thread late and thanks
> > to all those who responded actively on the first day, the thread is
> > still open. Today we look at Infrastructure issues, a quick glance
> > through last years report brings to mind the Pomp that greeted the
> > TEAMS and SEACOM initiative, one year down the line, it would only be
> > good to review the milestones we have made this far, going through an
> > earlier discussion on this list, i noted an interesting article posted
> > by listers that mentioned the fact that the undersea cable has led to a
> > boom in Spam coming from the this region, the study was conducted by
> > Symantec, i know this is just a tip of the ICEBERG and would like to
> > look at the issue from a Social perspective as well as an economic
> > perspective, are there real (tangible benefits) that the cables have
> > brought or is it euphoria, do we have indicators that show how the
> > country has benefited?, what do the various consituencies have to say?
> > Consumer advocates, Youth Representatives, the Private Sector?..the
> > discussion is open
> >
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> > Skype: barrack.otieno
> >
> >
> >
> >
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