[kictanet] ICT PARK TALK

Harry Delano harry at comtelsys.co.ke
Tue Jan 19 11:30:12 EAT 2010 

Jane ;-)

You are already confirmed. Liko is taking down the list..
 
Regards,
Harry

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Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT PARK TALK



 Hallo,
Am interested in attending the ICT Park Talk,kindly advice me on what is
required of me to confirm my attendance.
Thanks
Jane Kagiri.


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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Confirmed ICT Talk Information (Mwololo Tim)
  2. Re: Confirmed ICT Talk Information (Mwololo Tim)
  3. Re: New Regulations & the Media: Broadcasting Regulations
      (Wainaina Mungai)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:11:35 +0300
From: Mwololo Tim <timwololo at gmail.com>
To: "S.Murigi Muraya" <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Confirmed ICT Talk Information
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I had booked a conference room that can sit +50. If you still need it, I can
still re-confirm. tim

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:59 PM, S.Murigi Muraya
<murigi.muraya at gmail.com>wrote:

>  Count me in too. What happens if 50 of us confirm attendance? Does UoN
> come into play again?
>
>
>
>
>
> Mwololo Tim wrote:
>
> I will offer it again in future if there is an interesting talk. See you
on
> Thur. tim
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe
<blongwe at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Thanks for this. There seems to have been a mid-stream change (Liko?) -
>> all along I thought that UoN was venue, esp after you confirmed that it's
>> available Thursday evening. Nevertheless since this might be a regular
>> occurence - I hope you're not discouraged from offering the venue for
>> another occasion.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>  On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Mwololo Tim <timwololo at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I will be there. I will have to cancel the other booking that I had made
>>> in UoN. tm
>>>
>>>  On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Listers,
>>>>
>>>> Topic: Proposed ICT Park
>>>>
>>>> Speaker: Dr Bitange Ndemo, PS Ministry of Information
>>>>
>>>> Date & Time: Thursday January 21st 2010, 9am - 12pm
>>>>
>>>> Venue: Bishops Garden Towers, Bishops Road {Next to Fairview Hotel} -
>>>> ****this has been confirmed****
>>>>
>>>> Hosting Organization: Kenya Institute for Public Policy Research and
>>>> Analysis {30 Pax}
>>>>
>>>> Thanks All
>>>>
>>>>
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:24:49 +0300
From: Mwololo Tim <timwololo at gmail.com>
To: jairah at kippra.or.ke
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Confirmed for 50 at Arziki Restaurant, next to Chiromo Campus Library. See
you there. tim

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:14 PM, <jairah at kippra.or.ke> wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Hi? If you are able to re confirm, please do. It seems the numbers will be
> high. Let me know if you do?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Eric Aligula
> Sent from my BlackBerry?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mwololo Tim <timwololo at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:11:35
> To: <jairah at kippra.or.ke>
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:26:15 +0300
From: Wainaina Mungai <wainaina at madeinkenya.org>
To: bitange at jambo.co.ke,     KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
    <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] New Regulations & the Media: Broadcasting
    Regulations
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Makali,

It might help if ''the media'' listens to all these experts and
activists who for many years have fought for the freedoms & rights you
claim to defend.

It is no longer a fight between media and government/politician. Your
viewers, listeners and readers are demanding change....the same way we
fought for change in government. Now we want change in the 'fourth
estate'.

I'd suggest you deliver to the consumer first then we'll discuss your
suspicions about government intentions.

Wainaina

On 1/18/10, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> David,
> In my view dialogue is the only way forward.  Simply raise the issues you
> object to then we find a solution to it.  Even as you (media) unilaterally
> refused to participate in the stakeholder hearing, the Government would
> still want to accomodate your objections.  I also offered to resign if it
> happens that the regulations are outside of what is considered standard
> practice worldwide.
>
> Media freedom is dear to me and would not want unnecessary fights with
> media.  I have said before that individual liberties have limitations
> especially when it comes to where the individual like a child has no
> capacity to exercise those liberties.  From Mills to Chaufour you will
> find state intervention necessary to protect those unable to exercise
> certain rights.
>
> When Hon. Mbogua attacked the Nation Journalists, Media did not go to
> Media council or any other body.  They came to the Government.  The
> Government therefore is supposed to guarantee protection to those who
> cannot protect themselves.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
>> folks,
>> quite a few things can be said about the new broadcasting regulations but
>> the tendency on this forum to pooh pooh the media, as if it is the
>> greatest sinner, is quite frankly discouraging. any one who is cheering
>> the govt for the new regulations is urged to employ some
>> skepticism.because sooner rather than later, they will begin to absorb
the
>> implications.
>> it is quite clear that regulations are needed, but the devil is in the
>> letter. the day you have the cck, which is yet to demonstrate its
>> independence from political dictation, determining what is aired or not,
>> and what constitutes a variety of views or objectivity, then you will
>> reaslise what the apprehension is all about.
>> i hesitate to get into specs and refer you to our (Kenya Editors Guild)
>> (http://www.eastafricapress.net/) position, as well as my comments on the
>> regulations when they were first published
>> (http://www.eastafricapress.net/index.php?option=com_content
<http://www.eastafricapress.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id
=223> &view=article&id=223)
>> more later.
>> makali
>>
>> _______________
>>
>> "If my doctor told me I had only six minutes to live,
>> I wouldn't brood. I'd type a little faster."
>> ??? Isaac Asimo, Columbian Author and Scientist
>> _______________
>>
>> PO Box 3234
>> 00200 Nairobi, Kenya
>> cell: +254 722 517 540
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 1/16/10, alice <alice at apc.org> wrote:
>>
>>> From: alice <alice at apc.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] New Regulations & the Media: Broadcasting
>>> Regulations and the Statute Misc Amendement Act
>>> To: dmakali at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 9:03 AM
>>> Hi Warigia and all,
>>>
>>> Attached broadcast regulation and the Miscellaneous
>>> amendment act.
>>>
>>> best
>>> alice
>>>
>>> warigia bowman wrote:
>>> > Alice, can you upload a PDF of the new regulations for
>>> the list?
>>> >
>>> > Rigia
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:01 AM, alice <alice at apc.org
>>> > <mailto:alice at apc.org>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >?? ??????But what happened to the right
>>> to receive accurate and honest
>>> >?? ??????information? On the current
>>> coverage of the broadcast regulation,
>>> >?? ??????the media seems to be focusing
>>> on the political/economic self
>>> >?? ??????interest aspect only rather
>>> than the broader interplay between
>>> >?? ??????technology, markets,
>>> government and political self-interest and I
>>> >?? ??????have not seen/heard or read
>>> anything on the benefits to the
>>> >?? ??????public, (viewers/consumers).
>>> >
>>> >?? ??????There is also some
>>> misrepresentation of for example section 43 1.
>>> >?? ??????Some of the TV and radio
>>> stations have reported that the new
>>> >?? ??????regulations will limit
>>> broadcast and reporting of emergencies: But
>>> >?? ??????that section (43 1 of the
>>> "Kenya gazette supplement number 86 of
>>> >?? ??????December 2009) in fact compels
>>> broadcast service providers to
>>> >?? ??????provide notice of public
>>> emergencies:
>>> >
>>> >?? ??????'43 1) all broadcasting
>>> service providers shall provide a public
>>> >?? ??????notice of an emergency or a
>>> public disaster announcement upon the
>>> >?? ??????request of a person authorized
>>> by the Government'
>>> >
>>> >?? ??????And did you know that the
>>> recent STATUTE LAW (MISCELLANEOUS
>>> >?? ??????AMENDMENTS) BILL, 2009
>>> *deleted* the much contested section 88 of
>>> >?? ??????the Kenya Communications Act
>>> 1998, which gave the minister powers
>>> >?? ??????to "take temporary possession
>>> of any telecommunication apparatus
>>> >?? ??????or any radio communication
>>> station apparatus within Kenya? If you
>>> >?? ??????recall the drama at the
>>> beginning of the year, when media stuck to
>>> >?? ??????reporting, erroneously, that
>>> this section was contained in the new
>>> >?? ??????KCA amendment act 2009, while
>>> it had been in existence since 1998.
>>> >
>>> >?? ??????The genesis of the broadcast
>>> regulation is not just limited to
>>> >?? ??????politics; rather, it has been
>>> influenced by the rapid evolution of
>>> >?? ??????broadcasting technology, and
>>> especially the recent move from
>>> >?? ??????analogue to digital which will
>>> transform our broadcast landscape
>>> >?? ??????beyond recognition.
>>> Digitisation will enable grater compression of
>>> >?? ??????content into what spectrum we
>>> have available, so scarcity will no
>>> >?? ??????longer be the issue for new
>>> entrants, it will also enable viewers
>>> >?? ??????to decide on what content they
>>> care about to watch or listen to
>>> >?? ??????and will depend less on the
>>> platform used for transmission of the
>>> >?? ??????content. The same content can
>>> be viewed/listened to on mobiles,
>>> >?? ??????computers, internet sites, etc
>>> other factors include bundling of
>>> >?? ??????attractive content with
>>> advertising, unlike analogue, viewers can
>>> >?? ??????block the adverts, which may
>>> make the traditional way of financing
>>> >?? ??????content unsustainable, but
>>> will make processing (technical
>>> >?? ??????aspects) of
>>> information/content cheaper.
>>> >
>>> >?? ??????The changes for broadcasters
>>> have major implications for
>>> >?? ??????regulators, for example, while
>>> digitisation will introduce more
>>> >?? ??????competition, diverse market
>>> for broadcast content and enhance
>>> >?? ??????viewing decision making,
>>> issues of piracy, abuse of intellectual
>>> >?? ??????property (because of the ease
>>> at which digitisation will provide
>>> >?? ??????for copying of content) is
>>> likely to rise. Further, there will be
>>> >?? ??????need for vigilance on market
>>> power of bigger broadcasters, or new
>>> >?? ??????broadcasters, particularly
>>> those who have the resources to corner
>>> >?? ??????the market with say premium
>>> content like football matches, etc. So
>>> >?? ??????it???s not just about
>>> politics, there is much much more...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >?? ??????Views expressed are personal
>>> and not a reflection of any of the
>>> >?? ??????institutions/organisations I
>>> am affiliated with.
>>> >
>>> >?? ??????Best, Alice
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >?? ??????Leonard Mware wrote:
>>> >
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????Spot on Barak!
>>> Tumechoka! The sooner something is done the
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????better, Bwana
>>> Ndemo.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????--- On *Thu,
>>> 1/14/10, Barrack Otieno
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????/<otieno.barrack at gmail.com
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????<mailto:otieno.barrack at gmail.com>>/*
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????From: Barrack
>>> Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????<mailto:otieno.barrack at gmail.com>>
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????Subject: Re:
>>> [kictanet] New Regulations & the Media
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????To: mleonardo at yahoo.com
>>> <mailto:mleonardo at yahoo.com>
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????Cc: "KICTAnet
>>> ICT Policy Discussions"
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????<mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????Date: Thursday,
>>> January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????Bwana Wainaina
>>> tumechoka!
>>> >
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????I was just
>>> listening to Classic 105 this morning in a matatu
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????and i was
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????ashamed of what
>>> i was hearing at 9.00 am, i thought we used to
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????have
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????such programs
>>> after 11 PM (late night ) as they were called at
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????this
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????rate life
>>> expectancy might as well be reduced to 30 (i have no
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????scientific
>>> justification or research to support this). The
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????problem is
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????not freedom, the
>>> issue is what to do with the freedom, if i
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????heard Dr
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????Ndemo correctly
>>> when he did a press briefing, he mentioned the
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????fact
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????that he had
>>> invited all the stakeholders in the media
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????fraternity to
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????deliberate on
>>> the issue but they are either reluctant or
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????non-commital,
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????i see the media
>>> as a double edged sword, it can liberate and
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????it can
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????kill, can the
>>> media council and the media owners get their act
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????right
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????in so far as
>>> content regulation is concerned, otherwise we
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????might end
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????up with a
>>> scenario akin to the Matatu Industry madness which is
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????holding our
>>> nation at ransom. (and by the way did anyone do some
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????research on how
>>> much we lost during the two day strike?)
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????We shall
>>> overcome
>>> >
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????On 1/14/10,
>>> Wainaina Mungai <wainaina at madeinkenya.org
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????<mailto:wainaina at madeinkenya.org>
>>> >?? ?? ?
>>>
??????<http://us.mc552.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wainaina@madeinkenya.org
>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????wrote:
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????> Hi all,
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????>
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????> When Dr.
>>> Ndemo published the new media regulations a few days
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????ago, the
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????> Media
>>> Owners complained..... naturally.
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????>
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????> However,
>>> there has been no debate on KICTANet and the press
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????seems
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????> unsure on
>>> whether to fight this time round.
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????>
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????> I am
>>> surprised at the very loud silence on the issue. Is it
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????a sign
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????> there is a
>>> major storm brewing?
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????>
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????> Wainaina
>>> >?? ?? ?? ??????>
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