[kictanet] My 2cts: ICT Parks- free ICT Park Concept Talk?

Fri Jan 8 12:02:56 EAT 2010

Anyone knows of an outside Catering company or better still the University
has a catering Unit and UNES, they can be invited and then interested buyers
do it at their pleasure , the important issue is the *days agenda*, they
should just ensure that the Price of the refreshments cuts across the
socio-economic sphere and the menu is democratic.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Robert
>
> We have a free room and a willing speaker  ... lets not make 1000shs the
> issue ...
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:41 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Lets get serious and stop expecting handouts, we have been given a room
>> for free so lets learn how to finance activities that we find important to
>> us.
>>
>> Let the students and stingy present their case and it can be looked at, so
>> by asking you and me to pay 1,000/- we shall have a surplus that will be
>> used to provide for the students.
>>
>> In addition I clearly indicated that we would like to do more than listen
>> to the PS give the presentation we need to have it captured for posterity
>> and to bring up when & if necessary.  It also allows us to make the same
>> available to those who will not be able to come for the presentation and
>> also those who need to watch it in future.
>>
>> It would also be good to have handouts of the presentation available on
>> the day so that we can take notes and it might be asking too much of the PS
>> to do this especially after the loss of free primary education cash ha ha
>> ha.
>>
>> If I am the only one who feels strongly about us paying for the
>> presentation can someone please ask me to keep quiet.
>>
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 7/1/10, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] My 2cts: ICT Parks- free ICT Park Concept Talk?
>>
>> To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 15:45
>>
>>
>> Yawe,
>>
>> 1000Ksh clearly cuts out the student and other "marginalized" populations.
>> Then there is the logistics of collecting/reciepting funds and whatsmore,
>> one can argue that they simply want to hear out the good old PS and while
>> not having any refreshments ;-)
>>
>> Nway, we have Skunkworks members on this list and they can tell us how
>> they organise "free" talks...at worst let the big names Safaricom, Adwest,
>> KDN, UUNET, TKL, ZAIN etc pick the bill for refreshment and recording. It
>> will probably be 0.00x% of their CSR budget.
>>
>> walu.
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 1/7/10, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] My 2cts: ICT Parks
>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 5:40 PM
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We have a room for the presentation by Dr. Ndemo I propose that all who
>> are interested in attending register with me and be willing to contribute
>> 1,000/- to cover refreshments and hire someone to record the session so that
>> we can have something to put on Utube.
>>
>> For transparencies sake we shall make sure that audited accounts are sent
>> to all who attend.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 6/1/10, Mwololo Tim <timwololo at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Mwololo Tim <timwololo at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] My 2cts: ICT Parks
>> To: "robert yawe" <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: Wednesday, 6 January, 2010, 7:14
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I can book an appropriate room in the University for such a meeting, as
>> long as I will not fund anything else. Perhaps someone can fund tea/coffee.
>> tim
>>
>>
>> On 1/5/10, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi,
>>>
>>> Dr. Ndemo has brought up an interesting issue, when can he be available
>>> to give us a presentation on the concept paper, I propose we individually
>>> meet the cost of the venue and refreshments.
>>>
>>> The University of Nairobi would be an ideal and relevant location.
>>>
>>> Any takers?
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>
>>> --- On *Wed, 30/12/09, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] My 2cts: ICT Parks
>>> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 13:15
>>>
>>>  Victor,
>>> Just imagine you inform us that you will be having a party then we begin
>>> asking for the guest list, the type of soup and if it will taste like
>>> that
>>> of Ilyev.  The food is being cooked and when time comes (the dates I gave
>>> you) we shall give all the information.  None of you has ever invited me
>>> to present the concept paper.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Ndemo.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Thanks Dr Ndemo.
>>> >
>>> > Good to know and sounds great. I echo what one lister mentioned earlier
>>> > about getting 'snippets' of information. Would help if this information
>>> > was available on www (is it?) so we have a clearer picture.
>>> >
>>> > Victor
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: bitange at jambo.co.ke<http://uk.mc278.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto:
>>> bitange at jambo.co.ke<http://uk.mc278.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> ]
>>> > Sent: 30 December 2009 13:15
>>> > To: Victor Gathara
>>> > Cc: bitange at jambo.co.ke<http://uk.mc278.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>;
>>> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] My 2cts: ICT Parks
>>> >
>>> > Thank you Victor.  We are not actually putting up just a BPO Park.
>>> This
>>> > is a Special Economic Zone that we are jointly putting up with other
>>> > sector including the financial sector (Finanncial District),  the
>>> science
>>> > park (with all other research institutions), tourism (Hotels),
>>> Industrial
>>> > park as well as a Trade Centre (Convention Centre).  The entire project
>>> > would include first class hospital and international schools.  It is
>>> > simply a new city, an exempler on how things must be done.  We have
>>> taken
>>> > into consideration of all the issues raised by Booz Allen.  We are in
>>> the
>>> > process of coming up with the feasibility study by February and a
>>> Master
>>> > Plan by April.
>>> >
>>> > We are revising the Vision 2030 to refer to the BPO sector as IT
>>> enebled
>>> > services (ITES).  We are not to remain a BPO location for ever.  We
>>> must
>>> > climp the ladder to get to the real digital world.  BPO was proposed as
>>> > bait to get us thinking how we can make money out of ICTs.
>>> Unfortunately,
>>> > I see many of us getting stuck in this.  The broad thinking is to
>>> provide
>>> > fist world class infrastructure, develop capacity to utilize the
>>> > infrastructure then leave people alone.  This is called facilitation
>>> and
>>> > ideally entrepreneurialism would then propel economic growth.  But to
>>> be
>>> > honest I get disappointed when those who are supposed to understand
>>> this
>>> > basic theory begin to get confused even before the food cooks.
>>> >
>>> > In the Western ideology which we pretend to subscribe to, political
>>> > freedom and individual liberties are paramount.  In those other
>>> ideologies
>>> > that have failed they thought success will come from the state managing
>>> > economic, social and cultural activities.  To some extent this looks
>>> fair
>>> > but it failed to be sustainable.
>>> >
>>> > Whereas the later ideology has had some failures, these we simply
>>> market
>>> > fluctuations and indeed even local banana markets, markets do fail but
>>> not
>>> > the ambitions of a free society.  Therefore, please give us the benefit
>>> of
>>> > doubt that we have put a lot of thought to the SEZ in Athi River.  At
>>> > lease we are not sitting and not doing anything as it has been in the
>>> > past.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ndemo.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Dr Ndemo,
>>> >>
>>> >> The following is an excerpt for a paper I wrote  on the impact of the
>>> >> arrival of sub-marine fibre in East
>>> >> Africa(http://www.gg.rhul.ac.uk/ict4d/workingpapers/Gathero.doc). In
>>> >> it I suggest we adopt consultant Booz Allen Hamilton's six levers for
>>> >> successful development of an ICT park strategy for Kenya.
>>> >>
>>> >> ______________________
>>> >>
>>> >> ICT Parks
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Kenya's BPO sector cannot succeed without a critical mass of companies
>>> >> at least a handful of which must be of significant size (000s of
>>> >> employees).
>>> >> The Government can fast-track an environment conducive to ICT sector
>>> >> growth by fostering ICT parks - one or more buildings in which there
>>> >> is a full range of services including reliable electrical power, high
>>> >> speed lines, cabling, physical security and so on. GoK has undertaken
>>> >> the creation of one such park in Athi River. Building is expected to
>>> >> commence in July. The park will occupy about 5000 acres of land and is
>>> >> expected to employ over 10,000 people. While a positive undertaking,
>>> >> the park should be considered as part of an overall strategy.
>>> >> Consultant firm Booz Allen Hamilton has reviewed the learning from
>>> >> global experiences and suggests six main levers for the successful
>>> >> development of ICT parks:[1] <outbind://20/#_ftn1>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> * Purpose - This element must be articulated up front as it directly
>>> >> impacts the physical environment, regulatory and legal context,
>>> >> economic focus, level of integration to the national economy, etc. To
>>> >> illustrate, parks can focus on objectives dealing with ICT sector
>>> >> development, attraction of foreign investments and/or retention of
>>> >> domestic investments, and incubation of new business. The purpose of
>>> >> the Athi River Park should be clearly articulated.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> * Value Proposition - Central to the success of an ICT park is the
>>> >> definition and enactment of a legal and regulatory framework,
>>> >> provision of adequate infrastructure and facilities, availability of
>>> >> support services, overall quality of life, and location, to name a
>>> >> few. Importantly, the offering of communication-related services such
>>> >> as voice and data telecommunications, managed data services, and media
>>> >> broadcast all play a key role in shaping the value proposition. It
>>> >> would be good to get a blueprint of the park widely circulated showing
>>> >> advantages of businesses being housed there. The government can also
>>> >> make it easy for local or foreign firms to set up operations for
>>> >> example by giving tax incentives to companies, domestic and foreign
>>> >> operating in the park.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> * Location - The efficiency, effectiveness, and resulting lifestyle in
>>> >> these parks are important attributes. As a result, ICT parks tend to
>>> >> be located in dedicated areas outside the main city and within a short
>>> >> driving distance. They also tend to be located within a short driving
>>> >> distance from the airport as well as prominent universities. This
>>> >> clearly suits Athi River as a choice location with its distance from
>>> >> Nairobi, Daystar University and Jomo Kenyatta International Airport.
>>> >> Last but not least, Booz Allen suggests the park dedicates 30%-50% of
>>> >> their space to green areas with the objective to create a distinctive
>>> >> and attractive environment.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> * Partnership - ICT parks require close links to academic
>>> >> institutions, real estate developers, venture capitals and financial
>>> >> institutions, investment promotion agencies, and national government
>>> >> agencies involved in the ICT sector. To illustrate, and building on
>>> >> the learning of the broader experience of technology parks, nearly 50%
>>> >> of such developments are pursued within university-related premises.
>>> >> It would be prudent for the government to initiate such partnerships
>>> in
>>> >> this early stage.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> * Funding - ICT parks can be funded primarily through the private
>>> >> sector (e.g., real estate developers, private investors/placement) and
>>> >> government agencies if required. They are self-sustainable financially
>>> >> and can generate attractive returns. In this regard GoK should seek to
>>> >> enter Private Public Partnerships to ensure that there is private
>>> sector
>>> >> buy-in.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> * Competitive Positioning - ICT parks can define their competitive
>>> >> positioning along three dimensions. Firstly, they need a
>>> >> differentiated positioning vis-à-vis other comparable developments
>>> >> within the same region (e.g., within the Arabian Peninsula, such as
>>> the
>>> >> Dubai Media city).
>>> >> Secondly, they need to offer distinctive benefits at a national level,
>>> >> in particular when considering that 50% of the tenants could represent
>>> >> already established institutions. Thirdly, ICT parks can be defined as
>>> >> part of a regional network of parks. Such a 'constellation' of parks
>>> >> aims to create cross-border synergies and complementary products,
>>> >> services, and strengths. The concept of 'constellation' is already
>>> >> into play at a national level with developments such as the Smart
>>> >> Villages in Egypt having planned presences in Giza (Cairo), Mansoura
>>> >> (Cairo), and Alexandria. The Athi River Park should therefore not be
>>> >> seen in isolation but as part of a constellation of parks. Others
>>> >> could be developed in University towns such as Eldoret, Nakuru and
>>> Juja.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ________________________________
>>> >>
>>> >> [1] <outbind://20/#_ftnref1>  Booz Allen Hamilton: ICT parks offer a
>>> >> fast-track development approach for the Middle East,
>>> >> http://www.ameinfo.com/66995.html <http://www.ameinfo.com/66995.html>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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