[kictanet] Pondering mobile competition

Wed Aug 25 17:58:50 EAT 2010

Cool!

On 25 August 2010 17:56, Dennis Kipruto <rutodenis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Andrea,
>
> On monday I bought a zain sim card and I wasn't allowed to pick my line
> before I had given a copy Of my ID card.all the street vendors have been
> given a booklet containing all the details that need to registered by
> respective telcos.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dennis Kipruto.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt <
> andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
>
> I'm particularly curious if, in this whole feeding frenzy, Zain are
> actually urging people to register, and also whether CCK will really treat
> end-August as the cut-off date and, well, cut everyone unregistered off.
> It'd be interesting to hear from both organisations.
>
> I'm still not sure whether my registrations have actually entered the
> system, never mind whether the whole exercise made any sense since I'm now
> convinced that I could have registered as Elton John. Or even as Michael
> Jackson in his latter pale days:
>
>
> <http://andreabohnstedt.blogspot.com/2010/07/anecdotal-evicence-sim-card.html>
> http://andreabohnstedt.blogspot.com/2010/07/anecdotal-evicence-sim-card.html
>
> On 25 August 2010 16:32, < <Francis.Hook at gmail.com>Francis.Hook at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> It would be interesting to see what impact SIM registration has on total
>> subscriber numbers across all networks. In RSA, Vodacom alone shed one
>> million subscribers when SIM registration was implemented. With the multi
>> SIM card population we have (Yu, Zain, Orange in the wallet and Safaricom in
>> the phone...or sthg like that...or two lines on one network obtained from
>> handset offers etc), subscribers may be compelled to decide who is their
>> "true love"....and now with the tariff wars raging....and with MNP in the
>> vicinity push WILL come to shove.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2010 2:41pm, Walubengo J < <jwalu at yahoo.com>jwalu at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Andrea,
>> >
>> > yes, indeed these are interesting times. but not for me, at least not
>> yet.
>> >
>> > The high costs of voice communications have for a very longtime
>> socialized me into the (peculiar?) habit of NOT talking. I have grown used
>> to alternative means of communication and just feel too old to suddenly
>> start yapping. So of what use is 20bob, 8bob, 3bob, 2bob or even 1bob per
>> minute voice call if I rarely talk anyway ;-)
>> >
>> > My prayer is that these price wars will eventually move over from the
>> Voice to Data (internet) markets.  That will be the day I will really get
>> excited...
>> >
>> > walu.
>> > nb: me-still-thinks Zain will not cause any significant dent on Safcom
>> 80% existing market share but shall instead gain 80% of all the NEW
>> subscribers over the next couple of months...but perharps am just being
>> biased since am told the Zain new owners
>> > have the money to sustain "loses" for longer periods of time(even 5yrs)
>> in order to cause a serious dent on the market leader's position. May the
>> best man and woman win.
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Tue, 8/24/10, Andrea Bohnstedt
>> <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Pondering mobile competition
>> > To: <jwalu at yahoo.com>jwalu at yahoo.com
>> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> > Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 4:38 PM
>> >
>> > The 'abuse' complaint was silly, I think: Zain's network was congested
>> from day one of their tariff launch. I'm sure, very very sure, that telecoms
>> professionals at both Zain and Bharti are, well, professional enough to
>> anticipate the need to increase network capacity if
>> > they launch such an aggressive tariff.
>> >
>> >
>> > You've seen the fun little leaked exchange between Rene Meza and Michael
>> Joseph - Zain approached Safaricom in the evening asking for capacity on the
>> Safaricom-owned link, and Joseph promised to look into this in the morning.
>> The interconnection agreement between both companies states that this
>> protocol can take up to seven days, as far as I understand.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> <http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201008203586/Kenya/News-Analysis-Telecoms-Price-Wars-Gone-Dirty.html>
>> http://www.ratio-magazine.com/201008203586/Kenya/News-Analysis-Telecoms-Price-Wars-Gone-Dirty.html
>> >
>> >
>> > Either they could have just increased capacity before the launch, or, if
>> they were worried about alerting Safaricom to this, then just suck up and
>> tell customers that the network will be congested for another seven days.
>> >
>> >
>> > So for Zain to come out the next morning and shout about abuse is
>> > dishonest and a cheap marketing ploy that I think they really don't
>> > need.
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm a happy capitalist. Competition is a good thing, in Kenya as
>> elsewhere. So I'd like them to compete on the strength of their services and
>> concepts, not by overnight accusations of 'abuse'.
>> >
>> > Mind you, if Zain kill of Orange and Essar, we'll have a bit less
>> competition in terms of numbers, but hey ... :)
>> >
>> >
>> > Happy phone calls,
>> > Andrea
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 24 August 2010 14:34, Emmanuel Khisa <oloo.khisa at googlemail.com>
>> oloo.khisa at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Andreas,
>> >
>> > You have spoken for me on this one...I have also wondered since
>> zain/bharti lodged their complaint with CCK over clogged network, were they
>> just playing spoilt kid or do they have a valid claim? My opinion is that
>> since they have experienced an unanticipated rise in subscribers they didnt
>> have the network infrastructure to support these calls and so quickly blame
>> the rival and make them look bad. But then again maybe they have a valid
>> case against the boys in green.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Nonetheless the winner here is the consumer. Shall we safely say that we
>> have entered the third mobile revolution.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Andrea Bohnstedt
>> <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm wondering:
>> >
>> > Will CCK strictly enforce the cut-off deadline for unregistered SIM
>> cards at the end of August? Are Zain making sure that everyone picking up a
>> new line also register them immediately?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If price war is Zain's strategy, will they have enough money left to
>> invest in infrastructure and customer service once their subscriber numbers
>> go up significantly? Will they be able to scale up both systems quickly
>> enough?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Telkom Orange are cited in the media as complaining that the
>> interconnect rate also applies to their fixed line service and that this is
>> not even covering their costs (<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom%20unhappy%20with%20interlink%20fee/-/1006/995372/-/o9pm5az/-/>
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom%20unhappy%20with%20interlink%20fee/-/1006/995372/-/o9pm5az/-/).
>> I wonder if the two big ones having it out won't kill the two small ones
>> first?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bharti/Zain have also launched free sms alongside lower on and off-net
>> calling rates and free minutes in Nigeria:
>> <http://telecomyatra.afaqs.com/news/?sid=1652_Bharti+subsidiary+Zain+introduces+free+SMS+in+Nigeria>
>> http://telecomyatra.afaqs.com/news/?sid=1652_Bharti+subsidiary+Zain+introduces+free+SMS+in+Nigeria
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Happy afternoon,
>> > Andrea
>> >
>> >
>> >
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